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    Sean Hannity compared the Russia investigation to birtherism (maybe he forgot who led the birther conspiracies)
    http://bit.ly/2smxe25

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    European leaders are watching this meeting with more than passing interest....IF Trump sidesteps this meeting with the Ukrainian President and is scheduled to met Putin at the G20 THEN European leaders will be taking this as a signal that Trump and Putin FP wise are a solid pair and will then slowly avoid any further direct interaction with Trump....

    Right now even Mattis and Tillerson have been burned in their eyes by telling the Europeans one thing and Trump doing something directly the opposite...

    So in European intel circles some are indicating that this might in fact "trigger a release of compromising Trump information and or videos" that will pick up the pace of the Russian investigation was a way to signal their discomfort of Putin and Trump....

    [B]Ukrainian president to 'drop in' on Donald Trump during Washington visit
    Hours before Petro Poroshenko’s arrival, details of the meeting had still not been confirmed with the apparently reluctant US president.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...sit?CMP=twt_gu

    Maybe the Trump reluctance is due his knowing WHY the Ukrainian position in the Republican Platform was changed at the last moment by Manafort and Bannon.....



    Europeans will be listening to see if Trump states something other than his SoS Tillerson and his SecDef Mattis when it comes to Russian sanctions and or Russian complying with Minsk 2.....as the key to settling the fighting in eastern Ukraine....

    IF there is a difference then watch the Europeans distance themselves from both SoS and SecDEf......and then they know neither can be trusted in what they state while in Europe on visits.....

    Comment out of Europe today....
    Trump has met w leaders from Saudi Arabia, Egypt & Turkey, but is only expected to "drop in" on Poroshenko?
    AND he is not tied to Putin ?
    APPEARS someone inside the Trump WH understands Russia......as the meeting took place complete with photo op.....

    And just an hour prior to Trump-Poroshenko meeting new sanctions against Russia and it's actions in Ukraine
    https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce...20170620.aspx#

    BUT WAIT......
    Trump calls it "the Ukraine," a holdover from the Cold War when it belonged to Russia, a sentiment expressed by Putin last week
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    Remember: Russian active measures are tried-and-tested methods to exacerbate existing cracks in the targeted body politic.

    New CBS poll finds that 31% of public and HALF of Republicans say Russia did not try to interfere in 2016 election AT ALL:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-h...roval-ratings/
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    SO much for US jobs and manufacturing.....

    Ford to move factory to China after Trump pressures company not to move to Mexico:
    http://hill.cm/MRwmTx9

    SO was this in exchange for the Chinese trademarks for his daughter?

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    AND any comments out of the Trump WH......?????

    Russian jet flies within FIVE feet of U.S. plane over Baltic Sea
    http://lat.ms/2sx8WAV

    RC-135 is a converted B707. Highly maneuverable it's not.
    It would be Hainan incident of 2001 again, but worse.


    Russians also flying with transponders off 100%.
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    Under what circumstances do you tweet the second half of your sentence before the first half? Then correct yourself? How does someone do this?
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    Ex-Trump senior campaign advisor Boris Epshteyn justifying WH press restrictions by ridiculing the press & calling them a distraction

    Boris Epshteyn is also under investigation.....

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    FBI nominee Chris Wray removed a reference to a case involving the Russian gov't from his law firm bio, per CNN.

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    Trump wants only "occasional" WH press briefings. But the daily briefings precedent was established yrs ago, so WH is now obstructing the press......

    NEWSPEAK: ending on-camera WH briefings called a "redesign" of communication strategy

    There is a suppression of information going on at this WH that would not be tolerated at a city council mtg or press conf with a state gov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Indicates just where the Russian investigation is heading.....

    SC Mueller hires Elizabeth Prelogar, appellate expert from DOJ solicitor general’s office.

    Interesting that some of the US top investigators, lawyers and prosecutors have joined Mueller...indicates a wide ranging, criminal, collusion and cover up investigation is underway...
    APPEARS many in the Trump WH do not know she is a fluent Russian speaker........

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    Does the president believe Russia interfered in 2016 campaign?

    Spicer: "I have not sat down and talked with him about that specific thing."

    Q from Kentucky @840WHAS Radio: Pres wants to bring back coal jobs, but people here want tech jobs & training.

    Spicer: it's not either or

    WHAT the heck is this statement since the GOP has not included Dems in a single discussion nor told them what the plan entails....

    Spicer defends secret GOP #AHCA healthcare bill: Dems have chosen NOT to be part of the process. They chose not to engage.

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    Appears that the loss of 198M US voters' personal information and voting information which could provide a rather detailed voter preference which was "stolen" by unknown persons BECAUSE it was left on an open unsecured location on an Amazon cloud server for 21 days was handled by a US defense contractor SCL...

    SCL used to be owned by Trump special advisor Bannon before he sold it to Cambridge Analytica now owned by billionaire Mercer a large Trump supporter....

    SCL is now being investigated by UK concerning this data breach which effected virtually ALL US voters.....

    UK Information Commissioner opens a formal investigation into the use of data analytics for political purposes:
    https://iconewsblog.wordpress.com/20...al-purposes/#…

    They are investigating as well the connections between the US defense contractor SCL and CA and whether they are actually the same company just different names...

    SCL and CA pride themselves in being "big data" and storage companies YET this was a massive breach and caused by themselves...

    NOW this is where one sees the connection back to the San Antonio TX IT company that drove the Trump digital campaign which specifically drove targeted voter media....

    Some of the data sets SCL held...
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    IMHO this is one of the worst data breaches in the last ten years of really bad data breaches YET it has not rated much comment in US MSM......

    When coupled with data mining taken from social media on virtually all of these voters it is extremely easy to formulate and distribute targeted political media messaging much in the fashion of informational warfare which is the core of the Russian on linear warfare....

    So it begs a serious question...if hacking of voter databases is considered to be "bad" as that would be seen as "direct meddling in an US election".....WHAT is then the effective use of targeted media directed against voters THAT could in fact get them to change their vote????

    This data held by SCL when coupled with social media big data mining can in fact produce very accurate explicit psychographic scores THAT then can be converted into specific targeting of voters with messaging that "appeals" to their psychological voter profiles.

    We are now seeing a modern Gobbels approach to impacting voting habits...

    When one really takes the time to read the Russian doctrine on information warfare...it clearly states the end goal is the changing of opinions, attitudes and thinking of an entire society just not individuals...

    AND if we look at the latest CBS polling also posted here we are seeing a not so subtle shift by a group of voters which had previously been largely negative towards Russian NOW being accepting of Russia and its current actions....

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    Michael Flynn heard CIA secrets despite Russian blackmail concerns:
    http://hill.cm/dChX0GJ

    Even when the Trump appointed CIA Director knew of these "security concerns" YET he allowed it....and refused to answer a Senate direct question..."did Trump ask you to stop the Flynn investigation".....

    He refused to answer this direct question in a public hearing under oath...

    Silence is an answer....as it it really easy to say no....

    WHAT is interesting is that historically these "blackmail concerns" are a solid killer of a security clearance....there was once a very high CIA officer who openly admitted being gay during his last security review...but CIA allowed him to remain in his position and continue working after he "officially came out" as then no one could blackmail him...and he retired years later....

    BUT Flynn had so many blackmail points and coming out would have opened him up to admitting to massive and deep Russian contacts...
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    WHY is the GOP driving so hard on a really bad healthcare law when virtually all polling even of Republican voters only want changes made to fix some bad areas......

    WHY are they conducting it even in the face of being accused of total secrecy which goes against everything they even complained about when ACA was passed by the Dems.....

    WHY.....it is easy to answer....

    Cap Hill source tells me "GOP anxious to ram through healthcare because they believe more bad news on Russia is coming" (which will halt the entire GOP agenda).

    McCain: No American has seen GOP ObamaCare repeal bill but I'm sure the Russians hacked in and got it
    http://hill.cm/Kq41eaE
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Michael Flynn heard CIA secrets despite Russian blackmail concerns:
    http://hill.cm/dChX0GJ

    Even when the Trump appointed CIA Director knew of these "security concerns" YET he allowed it....and refused to answer a Senate direct question..."did Trump ask you to stop the Flynn investigation".....

    He refused to answer this direct question in a public hearing under oath...

    Silence is an answer....as it it really easy to say no....

    WHAT is interesting is that historically these "blackmail concerns" are a solid killer of a security clearance....there was once a very high CIA officer who openly admitted being gay during his last security review...but CIA allowed him to remain in his position and continue working after he "officially came out" as then no one could blackmail him...and he retired years later....

    BUT Flynn had so many blackmail points and coming out would have opened him up to admitting to massive and deep Russian contacts...
    Paper trail proves VP Mike Pence knew Michael Flynn was working as a foreign agent
    https://thesternfacts.com/vp-pence-w...n-8e9e3e3a19c1

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    Donald Trump says he has nothing to do with Russia, but Trump's "Little Moscow" in South Florida shows us otherwise:
    https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/21/...mi-red-square/

    HostKey West: Trump’s Miami Red Square

    By Jay McKenzie

    Donald Trump’s Little Moscow deserves more attention.

    In 1995, two significant events occurred in Trump’s life, both of which are weighing quite heavily on the nation of late. We learned about the first event in October 2016, barely more than a month away from Election Day. The New York Times published information detailing the $916 million loss Trump took on his 1995 income tax returns in the wake of (primarily) his mismanagement of his Atlantic City casinos.

    The second event in 1995 is likely a direct result of the first. Trump insulated himself from his own bankruptcies. In fact, he actually made significant profits in the process, but his employees and investors weren’t so lucky. After seeing the damage Trump left in his wake, willing investors and partners in any future business with Trump were hard to find. Trump needed to resuscitate his ailing brand, and the opportunity presented itself in the form of Gil and Michael Dezer who were headquartered in the Miami metropolitan area. Together, the three of them began buying up oceanfront land in the Sunny Isles, Florida. They’ve been building condominiums there ever since.

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    Trump seeks sharp cuts to housing aid, except for program that brings him millions
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.90b86bf24bc7

    While there is no indication that Trump was directly involved in the proposal to leave intact a subsidy paid directly to private landlords such as himself, it illustrates how his financial interests can directly rise or fall on the policies of his administration.
    AND this is not the proverbial "conflict of interest".....??

    In a 2003 interview..video is available.....Trump when asked about running for President made the off hand comment..."you know I am so successful I could actually make money as President"...and now?????

    One of those landlords is Trump himself, who earns millions of dollars each year as a part-owner of Starrett City, the nation’s largest subsidized housing complex. Trump’s 4 percent stake in the Brooklyn complex earned him at least $5 million between January of last year and April 15, according to his recent financial disclosure.

    The federal government has paid the partnership that owns Starrett City more than $490 million in rent subsidies since May 2013, according to figures provided by a spokesman for the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Nearly $38 million of that has come since Trump took office in January
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears that the loss of 198M US voters' personal information and voting information which could provide a rather detailed voter preference which was "stolen" by unknown persons BECAUSE it was left on an open unsecured location on an Amazon cloud server for 21 days was handled by a US defense contractor SCL...

    SCL used to be owned by Trump special advisor Bannon before he sold it to Cambridge Analytica now owned by billionaire Mercer a large Trump supporter....

    SCL is now being investigated by UK concerning this data breach which effected virtually ALL US voters.....

    UK Information Commissioner opens a formal investigation into the use of data analytics for political purposes:
    https://iconewsblog.wordpress.com/20...poses/#…

    They are investigating as well the connections between the US defense contractor SCL and CA and whether they are actually the same company just different names...

    SCL and CA pride themselves in being "big data" and storage companies YET this was a massive breach and caused by themselves...

    NOW this is where one sees the connection back to the San Antonio TX IT company that drove the Trump digital campaign which specifically drove targeted voter media....

    Some of the data sets SCL held...
    The special election in the Georgia 6th District is now prove of just how this use of "big data" plays and inherent role in elections now in the US.....

    Two GOP media contractors got into the last two months of this election and pushed massive social media efforts that were totally and completely negative if not bordering on outright lies about the Democrat who was running....

    One of the two social media contractors has been posted about extensively here and is under FBI investigation for a possible roll in the hacking of voter data and deep Russian connections....

    One attack video was used to imply that the Democratic candidate was directly responsible for the recent baseball field shooting and he was supported by the extreme left...

    When asked about the negative ad and the blatant use of lies the GOP candidate did not back away from the ad nor disown the ad....

    The Democratic candidate attempted to run ad wise are rather straight forward above the negative fight level.....so say this was a deep mistake...

    Jon Ossoff chose civility in Georgia race. It failed. So how do Democrats beat Trump?

    The decisive loss is sure to spark more questions about what type of candidates and what type of message Democrats need in the Trump era.
    REALLY WORTH reading and then rereading and then looking at some of my posting here to fully understand the depth of the previous postings on the "loss" of 198M voter datasets....AND then understand why they were being "collected" ie "harvested" for use by the GOP in the 2016 elections COUPLED with Russian hacking of key state voter databases.........

    "Most powerful when bots and trolls work together." Must-read from @oiioxford on bots, automation and propaganda:
    http://comprop.oii.ox.ac.uk/wp-conte...veSummary.pdf#

    Computational propaganda is the use of algorithms, automation, and human curation to purposefully distribute misleading information over social media networks. We find several distinct global trends in computational propaganda.

    • Social media are significant platforms for political engagement and crucial channels for disseminating news content. Social media platforms are the primary media over which young people develop their political identities. o In some countries this is because some companies, such as Facebook, are effectively monopoly platforms for public life. o In several democracies the majority of voters use social media to share political news and information, especially during elections. o In countries where only small proportions of the public have regular access to social media, such platforms are still fundamental infrastructure for political conversation among the journalists, civil society leaders, and political elites. • Social media are actively used as a tool for public opinion manipulation, though in diverse ways and on different topics. o In authoritarian countries, social media platforms are a primary means of social control. This is especially true during political and security crises. o In democracies, social media are actively used for computational propaganda either through broad efforts at opinion manipulation or targeted experiments on particular segments of the public. • In every country we found civil society groups trying, but struggling, to protect themselves and respond to active misinformation campaigns.
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    The entire Trump FP was to use the Chinese and hope for the best......

    Well if one really read recent Chinese comments...they were not engaging and the Russians were even making food and raw resource deliveries that are sanctioned...

    So now what is Trump's next move....???

    Donald J. Trump‏
    #@realDonaldTrump

    While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!

    Based on the Trump previous rhetoric is he off and running away towards war which in the end cover up his Russian problems....suing the death of an American as the excuse for war???

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