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    From a great social media open source analysis group....bellingcat......

    Wadi Barada – What Happened to Damascus’s Water? via @bellingcat
    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...ascuss-water/#

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    Russian Syrian Naval Express

    Project 733S, #ВМФ Okhtenskiy class rescue tug BSF #ЧФ SB-5 transits Bosphorus towards Black Sea after 70 days Mediterranean deployment

    It was deployed to tow the Russian aircraft carrier if it broke down.....

    Rumors persist that the Russian aircraft carrier will be returning to Russia at the end of this month....

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    HERE comes the Russian Chechen intervention into Syria....started with their so called MP BNs....but now "special BN troops".....

    Chechen Special Battalions Sent to Syria as Reinforcements #Russia
    https://jamestown.org/program/cheche...inforcements/#

    They only answer to the leader of Chechnya .....as they are his own personal Pretorian Guard units.....

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    Turkey growing a backbone....seriously doubt it...they got fooled as much as the FSA did by Russia and now must live with the consequences of a typically failed Russian ceasefire plan they signed onto...

    Turkish foreign minister calls on Iran to stop truce violations in Syria
    http://reut.rs/2iGXGiX

    The only thing that will get Assad's....Khamenei's and Putin's attention is if Turkish forces directly bombed Hezbollah and Assad positions as a warning that they are violating the ceasefire....

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    "Back to normal".
    Four towns bombed in #Hama today.
    Prequel to the pro-#Assad forces offensive northwards, I would say.


    "In response to the ceasefire violations", rebel fired Grad missiles vs. pro-#Assad forces in #Jurin.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0F6ZpPF7q8#

    AND Russia really cares about their own ceasefire....not really as they are participating in those attacks by not stopping them as their are one of the ceasefire guarantors...

    Idlib: #Assad helicopters dropped barrel bombs on #Khan_Shaykhun in Southern #Idlib.

    Air strikes also hit #Hama province today. Morek seen in the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymegGvN-ENo#

    126th #SyriaCeasefire violation: regime helicopters drop large explosive containers on Kafrzeta in north rural Hama (6 hrs ago).

    127th #SyriaCeasefire violation: regime artillery attack of 3 towns (Hazarma, Zreikia, & Hush al-Salhiye) in rural Damascus (5 hrs ago).
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    Russian Syrian Express....

    Supposedly Haifa-bound but going to #Tartus #Syria , Russia flag Ro-Ro Alexandr Tkachenko transited Bosphorus carrying military trucks
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    Default To Outlaw 09 RE: Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Azor...seems we agreed across the board for a change...hope your slide into the New Year was great.
    And you as wel!

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Here is the kicker...Russia has a standard battle tactic whether in eastern Ukraine or Syria...get the other side to talk and talk and talk and then get them into a ceasefire which usually they tend to try to hold to in order then to not be accused by Russia and often the US of violating the so called ceasefire...
    I would say that the Russian ceasefires, as evident in Ukraine and now Syria, are seen by the Russians as a form of conditional surrender. Russia is amenable to these ceasefires only when its adversary is losing, and offers them when it is close to winding down its participation in the conflict, having achieved most of its objectives.

    None of the ceasefire talks in question convinced an adversary to delay or abort what would have been a successful offensive; they are not ruses of war. Rather, these ceasefires mark the beginning of Russia consolidating its gains.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    We see that right now in eastern Ukraine where Russia claimed a Christmas ceasefire BUT the attacks have been massive and often and the UAF has been attempting to hold to it...
    In this case, Russia is deterring Ukraine from launching an offensive, which would be reported as violating the ceasefire. Ukraine is in no position to make major gains against the insurgents, without a devastating response from Russia.

    Unfortunately, the Russians not making a drive for Mariupol-Odessa-Transnistria and living with the daily fire from the insurgents are the best that Ukraine can hope for currently.

    Since when does Russia believe in fair ceasefires?

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    The same thing for the FSA right now...for the first three days the FSA held strictly to the Russian/Turkish ceasefire while within hours Assad with support from Hezbollah and RuAF started immediately to attack FSA positions.
    I gather that the Iranian-led forces broke the ceasefire first, presumably because Teheran and Damascus believe that all of Syria can be reconquered, whereas Moscow would not be unhappy with a friendly Alawite enclave in Latakia.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    IF and this is a big IF...if Russia and Turkey were truly interested in holding the ceasefire...both could simply bomb Hezbollah and Assad positons a few times and you would see a sudden stop of the attacks...
    If Turkey did not intervene against the Assadists prior to Russia’s intervention, why would they do so now?

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    BUT here is the next kicker...Russian and Assad positions are the same...they both are interested in destroying FSA regardless of how sweetly Russia talks at the UN about peace in Syria…

    REMEMBER it was the Russian Damascus Ambassador who before the Assad attack on Aleppo publicly stated in a major interview that Assad would not be attacking Aleppo and then surprise surprise Russian bombed and attacked as much as Assad Aleppo....

    I call this Russian tactic...simply "the talking attack"...
    I see this as private disagreement among the participants in the Assadist coalition, that is manifested in contradictory public statements and military actions.

    I gathered from CrowBat’s commentary that the Syrians were flying almost all of the missions over Aleppo city while the Russians were concentrating elsewhere…

    Regardless, Putin’s had his small war but Iran isn’t finished, so a smooth operator would exploit their differences…

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