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    СИРИЯ Российские саперы при разминировании Пальмиры используют робототехнические комплексы «Скарабей» и «Сфера»

    http://s.mil.ru/2oH4u0i

    SYRIA Russian military engineers are using Scarabey and Sfera newest robotic complexes while demining #Palmyra
    http://s.mil.ru/2oHfMlw
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    Trump's favorite US Democratic Congresswomen.......someone he is rumored to want on his NSC now...

    Tulsi Gabbard was paid by Syrian intel SSNP to travel to Syria. SSNP are the Nr 1 political assassins in the Levant

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...th-assad.html#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    If you had been tracking the Russian AD coverage that I posted here many of the points were already well known just after the attack......

    If you had read the CrowBat posts as well over the past year both S300s/400s are not a serious threat even to non TLAMs....which Russia has been trying to avoid talking about.....

    BUT here is the interesting single point....at all weapons trade fairs over the past year..check the Russian materials being handed out.....

    They emphasize the fact that both systems have a anti cruise missile capacity...question will be now can they hold those previous statements when potential buyers point out that fact????

    Secondly, the EW use of Growlers formerly Prowlers is a well documented simple fact that even the Russians should have taken into account when setting up their AD bubbles....

    NOW go to the Ukrainian thread and di out the comments of the Russian A2AD bubbles being built against NATO.....where they claim they cannot be broken through on ...you must then seriously question whether they are simply bluffing or outright lying......

    In the Cold War days the Soviets literally built SA6/8 "belts" that had to be broken through by SEAD aircraft where the US calculated heavy loses during the 1st/2nd SEAD waves before the belts were broken....

    NOW the Russians are talking about S500s......

    Here is an interesting fact...if the cruise missile detection and engagement bubble is only 30/40kms what happens if the aircraft suddenly are Tornado's are Growlers using HARM type missiles travelling low and slow?

    Remember this package was used often in VN with Prowlers armed with HARM type missiles leading the attack waves....usually followed by F4s...the high SAM shot down rates over VN was due to simply barrage firing of SAMs which in Syria the S300/400s cannot sustain....

    Find it interesting though that the Russians signal their weaknesses in public and hopefully are trying to coverup their basic failure in detection and non downing of anything fired that morning...

    Find it also interesting that they keep repeating on 23 hit anything when US ISR clearly tracked from start to finish 58...with one going down along the way...and one misfire....

    What they did indicate as a major naval weakness inadvertently was the fact that they cannot fire their missiles either in pairs and or in combination with other ships simultaneously....or in the US case as a broadside like in the cannon days.... then go immediately into a complete reload at sea mode...

    This is something the Russians cannot do....
    McDermott is an expert on the Russian military and wrote the book on the South Ossetia War, which is how I began following him.

    Some of what he wrote was a reiteration of what we already know or have deduced.

    However, he has made good points about the Russians' admission that they have trouble detecting and targeting subsonic low-flying maneuverable cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk.

    You will recall that there is grave concern over the efficacy of US cruise missiles, prompting development of the LRSO, etc. A number of analysts are concerned that US missiles are too slow, but it seems that stealth and maneuverability are actually better.

    In addition, McDermott has noted that Russia has no A2/AD zones, but rather small bubbles.

    Basically, as CrowBat would agree, the fears over Russian and Chinese SAMs are overblown both qualitatively and clearly quantitatively i.e. no more Cold War era dense belts...

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    I seriously doubt many even know this study exists..when we address both Shia and Sunni aspects of Islam....studies as this are critical....

    https://www.ctc.usma.edu/v2/wp-conte...amic-Imagery-P...

    The Islamic Imagery Project
    March 1, 2006
    Author(s): Combating Terrorism Center

    The study of Islamic imagery has been the exclusive domain of art historians and museum curators, with pre-modern art being the central area of interest. Thus, there is a palpable lack of information on modern imagery associated with political Islam, especially imagery that is produced by radical, and often violent, Muslim groups. Nowhere is the dearth of critical research more apparent than in the study of jihadi organizations. These organizations have had a brief but prolific history in the production and distribution of visual propaganda and have arguably created their own distinct genre of Internet-based Islamic imagery. While the tragic events of September 11 highlighted the importance of understanding the ideology and methods of jihadi groups, the process of achieving this understanding is still at the early stages, and the remaining areas of ignorance are profound.
    The current study on jihadi imagery, the first of its kind, is an important step in this process. Herein, visual propaganda is considered to be more than just a host for textual messages; rather, it is treated as an expressive medium unto itself—one which communicates ideas just as effectively, and sometimes as explicitly as the written word. We regard jihadi imagery to be a primary vehicle for the communication and diffusion of jihadi ideas, and an essential tool utilized by radical ideologues, terrorist organizations, and sympathetic propagandists, which plays to the particular religious and cultural experiences of their audience. Therefore, understanding how these images work, what ideas they convey, why they are employed, and what responses they may elicit is vital to our struggle against the influence of jihadi organizations and the violence they create.
    They have been communicating with us for years..we just have not understood their visual language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    McDermott is an expert on the Russian military and wrote the book on the South Ossetia War, which is how I began following him.

    Some of what he wrote was a reiteration of what we already know or have deduced.

    However, he has made good points about the Russians' admission that they have trouble detecting and targeting subsonic low-flying maneuverable cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk.

    You will recall that there is grave concern over the efficacy of US cruise missiles, prompting development of the LRSO, etc. A number of analysts are concerned that US missiles are too slow, but it seems that stealth and maneuverability are actually better.

    In addition, McDermott has noted that Russia has no A2/AD zones, but rather small bubbles.

    Basically, as CrowBat would agree, the fears over Russian and Chinese SAMs are overblown both qualitatively and clearly quantitatively i.e. no more Cold War era dense belts...
    You cannot shot down what you cannot "see" and or "hit"....speed is not everything....

    A number of analysts are concerned that US missiles are too slow, but it seems that stealth and maneuverability are actually better.

    BUT what was missed in the Russian lying about number of hits was the accuracy of the 58 hits....and there are now some US sources saying the targeting of several inbound TLAMs was changed and or flights were corrected on the fly indicating just how far the US has come in the integration of missile GPS and satellites in " near real time" as there is a drag time of 3 seconds on the signal delay side....and in 3 seconds a missile travesl how far?

    REMEMBER when the Russians fired their very first volley of their own cruise missiles from the Black Sea...video footage showed them flying somewhere over Iran and then targeting somewhere inside Iran and or simply crashing along the way...

    Was designed to impress the US but largely failed in that attempt to impress anyone including the rebels....

    Russian MoD can come nowhere close to this in any of the latest systems.....

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    Damascus: Rebels shelling pro-#Assad forces at the #Irbeen frontline in Eastern #Damascus with an Omar cannon today.

    Because the victims were taken to Turkey for treatment, funny @mod_russia doesn't know that
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...haykhun-fake/#
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    SO the USAF and the US Army will then be using Russian made fuels....in AFG...Iraq and Syria......WHAT happens if Russia does not deliver fuels to DoD?????

    "Rosneft is poised to become one of the biggest foreign owners of American oil refining capacity"
    https://news.vice.com/story/russia-o...nfrastructure#

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    Putin is lashing out at anything looking like a rebel town and or village in Syria right now....

    Russia dumping it's military budgets in Syria, dozens airstrikes today from South to North.

    With no military sense

    OTHER than punishing the Sunni civilian population for supporting FSA/HTS and company.....
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    NOW we know the Trump Syrian FP and it is hard at work providing CAS for Assad....Iran...and the Russians....BUT not for FSA/HTS involved also in heavy fighting against BOTH IS and Assad.....

    And again, #Trump bombed #ISIS for #Assad, #Iran & #Hezbollah ...

    * Near Palmyra, two strikes destroyed two ISIS tunnels and an ISIS shed.


    The #Kremlin regime again uses its high tech Su-35 to attack the free parts of the city.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCMfonoPcbE#

    Also #Daraa city is under heavy #Russian bombardment right now.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4BR4DH9xf8#…

    #Hama province shortly ago.
    #Putin's Su-25 bombing towns and villages near the front.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CWdIPYChA0#…

    REMEMBER Trump vowed "to eradicate IS from the face of the earth"...so at least you would think he would support those Syrians actively fighting IS....
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    The #Kremlin regime child killers are out in masses today, bombing cities N-W of #Aleppo.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzeQX_raSl8#…

    UK MSM is spreading fakes news as do the Russians and Assad it seems...
    Dear @Daily_Star desk,
    there has NEVER been an #ISIS presence in #Lataminah.
    Next ISIS area is 70km away.
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-clip-jihadi#…

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    IMPORTANT...not confirmed

    According to the #FSA, this TOW attack near #Khattab killed 2 Russian soldiers.
    Unconfirmed of course.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hepw...utu.be#…

    Hama Battle: Central Division #TOW strike vs group of pro-Assad near #Khattab, claiming several KIA incl. #Russia|n officers.
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    It was an SU22 that dropped sarin......and was suppose to be the targets of Trump's TLAMs.....

    Assad's Su-22, bombing the #Damascus suburb #Qaboun this afternoon.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yN-Fn6scio#…

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    Hama Battle: #HTS T-72 seized by pro-Regime forces in #Souran. Visibly damaged by collapse of a building.
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    E. #Damascus: Regime up-armoured T-72s experiencing urban warfare in #Qabun. Two taken out and one damaged past ~48 hours
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    Clashes between #Assad forces and rebels near of Rashdin neighbourhood and Shwehna Mountain N & W #Aleppo.

    This is by a former Obama admin official who worked with the NSC types now so voluble on Twitter:
    http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...strategically#
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    State Department raises torture in Syrian military hospitals in latest Syria report. Here is what survivors told us:
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...d9_story.html#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    IMPORTANT...not confirmed

    According to the #FSA, this TOW attack near #Khattab killed 2 Russian soldiers.
    Unconfirmed of course.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hepw...ure=youtu.be#…

    Hama Battle: Central Division #TOW strike vs group of pro-Assad near #Khattab, claiming several KIA incl. #Russia|n officers.
    I saw a video from Deir-e-Zor, where there were at least two Russian soldiers, including a wounded one, as well as a Russian medic. R&U films channel on YouTube...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    You cannot shot down what you cannot "see" and or "hit"...speed is not everything...
    Yes, but analysts relying on OSINT are worried about being overtaken by faster Russian and Chinese cruise missiles. My thinking was that the U.S. has prized range and maneuverability (and now stealth) over speed, despite the threats posed by advanced Russian and Chinese SAMs and EM warfare systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    BUT what was missed in the Russian lying about number of hits was the accuracy of the 58 hits...and there are now some US sources saying the targeting of several inbound TLAMs was changed and or flights were corrected on the fly indicating just how far the US has come in the integration of missile GPS and satellites in " near real time" as there is a drag time of 3 seconds on the signal delay side...and in 3 seconds a missile travels how far?
    McDermott notes the Russian propaganda focus on the alleged TLAM misses, rather than questions over the efficacy of their own IADS in Syria. Such real-time re-targeting is incredible for such missions as the strike on Shayrat. Unfortunately, we must assume that peer and near-peer adversaries can disrupt or even block satellite-based communications. Therefore, the TLAM becomes a fire-and-forget weapon and what happens when it does actually enter the admittedly small A2/AD bubble?

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    REMEMBER when the Russians fired their very first volley of their own cruise missiles from the Black Sea...video footage showed them flying somewhere over Iran and then targeting somewhere inside Iran and or simply crashing along the way...Was designed to impress the US but largely failed in that attempt to impress anyone including the rebels...Russian MoD can come nowhere close to this in any of the latest systems....
    Russia’s air campaign in Syria is a very poor man’s Desert Storm. However unimpressive, it has still given the Russian military valuable experience and the MOD has sought to expose as many units as possible to this live-fire exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BRUTAL social media open source analysis of the US so called AQ/IS mosque air strike that killed strictly civilians....

    .@ForensicArchi @hrw @bellingcat Human Rights Watch found no evidence that the mosque struck by US drones was being used for al Qaeda meeting:

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/18/...kely-unlawful#

    Basically calling this US strike a war crime against civilians and in total violation of IHL.....

    REMEMBER CENTCOM claimed they would investigate this strike...BUT all that has come from CENTCOM is utter silence on the strike...

    The attack on the mosque in opposition held Al Jinah in Aleppo province #Syria on March 16 reportedly killed 38 people including 5 children

    @Bellingcat contribution includes details of Tablighi Jamaat, Sunni missionary movement which ran mosque classes
    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena...and-timeline/#

    @ForensicArchi uses 3D modeling, architects' drawings, witness statements & munitions analysis to show mosque hit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOyihqEOfYA#
    CENTCOM's response to the Al Jinah mosque bombing investigation
    https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/fi...4-14-17_1.pdf#

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    According to @DirectRelief, a doctor and logistics manager for @sams_usa requested supplies after the 4/4 CW attack:
    https://www.directrelief.org/2017/04...cks-in-syria/#

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