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    W. #Aleppo: Rebels thwarted another pro-Regime assault along Al-Zahraa district - Al-Rachidin axis.

    Battle: pro-Regime forces failed attack S. of #Helfaya fleeing under Jaish Al-Izza fire.

    Since start of #Daraa Battle Bunian Marsous killed 158 pro-Assad (1 #Iran|ian & 9 #Hezbollah), destroyed 12 armors & seized 500+ buildings.
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    Check this proAssad blogsite..Al masdar.

    Al masdar blog, where it's writers spend the weekdays calling for chemical weapons then when used are 1st to say Assad would never do that

    Syria Report from "Shayrat" airbase several days after #US missile strikes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V46qgmoqsT8#

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    Azor...I include often MSM as they are often used as trial balloons....so is this a Putin off ramp?

    The core problem is that anything Putin agrees verbally with and or he officially signs is not in the end worth his words and or signature as he then never follows through....

    So he signals privately via back channels he will do it and then gets his seat and then stays in Syria...just how do you then throw him back out?

    BUT WAIT....he has already publicly declared the Syrian mission as a success and then pulled out supposedly his AF units....WAIT...never happened...

    So apparently Vladimir Putin will be offered Russia's G8 seat back as incentive to give up on Assad.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-pulls-syria/#

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    Syria Attempt by #Assad-forces to regain Ma'ardas in northern #Hama

    Hama Battle: Faylaq Al-Sham shelled Mt Zin Al-Abdeen with Grad rockets.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...767464&z=13&m#

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    Does this now mean CENTCOM will no longer fly CAS support for Russian and Assad troops as they did in Palmyra????

    Russian MoD/Armed Forces TV: Russia will not conduct armed [joint] actions with the US in Syria - Ozerov
    https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...9077536026624#

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    "Trump - more insane and dangerous than Obama?" ask Russian analysts with surprise

    McMaster: "very destructive cycle of violence perpetuated by ISIS but also by Assad regime, Iran & Russia sponsors.”
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...change-237038#


    AND here comes the "regime change" that Trump declared he would never do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    IMPORTANT...not confirmed by anyone yet...

    Col. Hasuri, pilot of Su-22 operating in #Shayrat Airbase & who bombed Khan Sheikhoun with #Sarin reportedly assassinated.

    WHO killed him is also not known...Trump...Putin...Assad....the rebels...Iran...who knows?

    Asaad Hanna‏
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    Breaking: the pilot Gen Mhmd Hasoury who made the chemical massacre in Khan Shaikhoun had been killed today by a bomb blast under his car
    Comment out of Ukraine.....

    Everyone assumes payback by Syrian opposition. But what if Russian GRU covering tracks? No one can interview him now

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    Visual verification of the new rebel-regime front in #Daraa's #Manshiyah district after rebel advances.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2zKn4L5jQ#

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    Russian Strategic Bomber Morse Code net active on 8029 Kilohertz CW at 0920 GMT

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    BREAKING....Important....

    Charles Lister‏
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    4 hours ago

    IMPORTANT: I’m now told by 4 well-placed sources that US *knows* #Russia was involved in the #KhanSheikhoun chemical weapons attack.

    This can only be via SIGINT......intercepts....

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    Syrian rebels destroyed an #Assad regime BMP-2 west of #Aleppo with the TOW.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFBX...ure=youtu.be#…

    The #FSA uses a main battle tank as a ballistic artillery piece in #Hama province.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3eZxpwRa_U#…

    Russian air force Su-35, attacking #Daraa city today.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXSa-nsmYeQ#…

    Also today,the #Assad air force drops bombs on #Daraa city.
    Mil Mi-24 in action.
    AND #Russia (pic)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgE-POwJlAs#…
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    Default To Outlaw 09 RE: Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Concerning translations...am including more of MSM as a simple counterbalance to social media as it actually reinforces the social media side.
    I find that these are increasingly opinion pieces pertaining to Trump rather than corroboration of events by say Reuters or AP.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    2. BTW....I am not exactly sure "what off ramps" either Russia and are China have been offered?

    I see a lot of threats by both Obama and now Trump and his merry WH band of brothers BUT then when it comes to moving the threat into reality....nothing...nada..nichts....

    Even the TLAM strike was so well announced in advance ...even a blind and deaf Assad/Putin would have seen/heard it coming hundreds of miles away....
    I was referring to Assad and Putin, not Xi. As you said, different members of the Administration are saying different things with respect to possible regime change as well as Russia’s culpability in Assad’s use of CW. This signaling is clearly intended to convey strength and the will to punish Assad further irrespective of his wishes or those of Khamenei and Putin, whilst also conveying the impression that Assad is not being targeted for removal and a recommendation that Putin cooperate on eliminating the use of CW in this war.

    Trump acted. He followed through without committing himself and without losing strategic ambiguity and escalation dominance. In comparison, Obama allowed himself to be made a fool of, and compounded the error by openly seeking excuses to avoid action.

    For someone who constantly reminds us of UAV surveillance and C4ISR, you seem to be ignoring the fact that the U.S. has probably been watching Shayrat Airbase for a very long time, and would have been aware of any warning given by Putin to Assad. As CrowBat noted, the remnants of the Syrian Arab Air Force were dealt a “severe blow”.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Your critique is valid but my answers and postings are just as valid...just from a different point of view than most Americans have...
    I’m not attempting to invalidate your personal opinions, but I’d rather not have an important log of the Syrian Civil War be cluttered with or diluted by your distaste for the president. Thus far, the president has done more to deter Assad from committing war crimes than his predecessor ever did, and there is no guarantee that an alternate president – Hillary Clinton – would have been willing or able to intervene successfully or intervene at all.

    Since George H.W. Bush’s unfortunate defeat, U.S. defense and foreign policy has been chaotic and confounding. Why Bosnia but not Rwanda? Why Kosovo but not Congo or Sudan? Why Iraq but not Iran or North Korea? Why Libya but not Syria? Why was Condoleezza rice fettered by not Albright or Clinton? Why do I want to throw my keyboard at the window writing this?

    So shall we keep Syria about Syria?

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    The core problem is that anything Putin agrees verbally with and or he officially signs is not in the end worth his words and or signature as he then never follows through...
    A legacy of Russia’s Third Revolution from 1929 to 1938. Yet we were able to prevent Uncle Joe from gobbling up Austria, Finland and Turkey, and even had him come down hard on Tito’s meddling in Greece.

    To my mind, Putin wants out of Syria, which is why Assad brazenly used Sarin. This is not unlike how Sadat seized part of the Sinai in order to force the superpowers to force a resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Assad provoked an American reaction which has forced Russia to counter-react and remain engaged. Yet the assassination of Col. Hasuri is indicative of Moscow’s displeasure, as it is the same modus operandi as Moscow uses for rebel commanders in Donbas who lose the plot.

    Putin’s objectives in Syria are rather limited and have been largely met, unless of course there is an attempt made to destroy the Alawi enclave either by the Sunni Arab rebel forces or as part of American-led regime change. However, both Assad and Khamenei seem determined to reconquer the rest of Syria and want Russia’s help to do so. How better to secure that than to act out in this way?

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    Syria chemical attack looks like nerve gas – and was no accident
    https://www.newscientist.com/article...Otj4o.twitter#

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    CrowBat......


    DOD says US, coalition jets still getting painted by Syrian/Russia air defense systems & remains a concern

    Likely this is a reference to a SAM engagement RADAR, a step below the mission's on-board RADAR taking over before or after launch

    Syria ups air defense radars since the US strike, in attempt to 'see" incoming. US pilots can work around it all: US defense official.

    Sounds like Russia has deployed Early Warning RADARs as well as the command assets to fully implement their Integrated Air Defense System

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    Default CENTCOM Spox (6:32 AM EST, April 10, 2017)

    https://twitter.com/CENTCOM

    1. "It was not our intention to make the #Syria Shayrat Airfield inoperable".

    2. "We targeted fuel reserves, aircraft, and did not target chemical weapons storages".

    3. "It was our intention to degrade Syrian's capability to perform chemical attacks".

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    Russian TV: "The world's at a highly dangerous point..No one's about to declare war on the US, but we can't leave this without a response."

    What if World War III was scheduled, but Russia didn't turn up?
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...ctions-syria/#

    Moscow is not going to fight US troops in Syria..a senior Russian lawmaker told Sputnik.....
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    Default Ayid Qabr village south of Tabqa liberated by SDF

    Source: https://anfenglish.com/news/ayid-qab...d-by-sdf-19425

    The village of Ayid Qabr 3 km south of Tabqa city has been liberated from ISIS by YPG-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) who have besieged Tabqa from four sides in the Operation Wrath of Euphrates.

    SDF fighters have started mop-up operations in the village after clearing it of ISIS gangs.
    This would also include the Taqba Airbase that was the scene of earlier Daesh-Assad fighting years ago.

    It will be interesting to see if the "Syrian Democratic Forces" engage in any ethnic cleansing here.

    Raqqa is increasingly turning into a salient and possibly a cauldron if the SDF can relieve Deir-ez-Zor and close the gap.

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    Hama: Mount Zayn al-Abdeen is under heavy Grad and artillery fire. I hope that Suheil al-Hassan is still there.

    Hama: Shelling and heavy clashes also between #Maan and #Kawkab.

    Hama Battle: clashes raging on #Maardes front while heavy Rebel shelling & clashes erupted on E. front: #Maan-#Kubariyah area.

    Hama: Heavy clashes in Northern #Hama this evening. Rebels launched a counter-attack against pro-#Assad forces in #Maardas.

    Hama Battle: Rebels targeting Mount Zin Al-Abdeen with heavy artillery & Grad rockets. Clashes broke out inside #Maardes (one BMP seized).

    Battle for Hama has actually now started....they may not take it but they are definitely going for it....

    Appears they feel the Assad forces are off balance and falling slowly apart under the heavy fighting and being stretched thin....

    Rebel advance: March 21-24
    Counter-offensive by pro-Regime forces: March 25 - April 3
    Stabilization: since April 4


    Hama Battle: Rebels counter-attacking in #Maardes. One T-72 and one 57 mm gun destroyed with #ATGM|s. Heavy clashes ongoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    https://twitter.com/CENTCOM

    1. "It was not our intention to make the #Syria Shayrat Airfield inoperable".

    2. "We targeted fuel reserves, aircraft, and did not target chemical weapons storages".

    3. "It was our intention to degrade Syrian's capability to perform chemical attacks".
    This BTW is a serious set of confused CENTCOM statements that fly in the face of airfield strike doctrine.....

    1. if the airfield is associated with chemical weapons and chemicals weapons are assumed to be stored anywhere close to that airfield then targeting strike doctrine says you make all runways inoperable either with JDAMS or in the case of Block IV TLAMS you can in fact damage the runways.....a video actually showed aircraft bunker penetrations so runways damages were not a problem.......

    2, if aircraft and fuel storage were targeted which they were that would not stop further chemical attacks....as it appears that the equipment needed to load chemical bombs from their storage containers was nowhere to be seen on any video since even CENTCOM says they did not hit any chemical storage sites....

    3. so again what really was degraded...airfield largely operational within hours of the attack..chemical storage site not hit thus still capable to be used...

    AND THEN this from today.....

    Fresh satellite images show one #SyAF Su-22 and three L-39s are back in #Shayrat Airbase after #US strikes, h/t @imagesatint


    So after 59 TLAMs at 1.41M per missile were fired ...base is still operational...and still has evidently a chemical storage site.

    What exactly was achieved?...what were the second and third order of targeting effects????

    Were they achieved and or did they fail....

    Am not the only one questioning this strike.....
    Trump's Syria strike changes nothing
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/....d39f4d67e177#
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 04-10-2017 at 06:25 PM.

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    Hama: Rebels destroyed 2 #Assad tanks in #Maardas, captured 1 tank and a BMP. Fierce battle ongoing.

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