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    Chubarov: Up to 20 Crimean Tatars detained in occupied Crimea on Tuesday
    https://www.unian.info/society/17884...-tuesday.html#
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    Trying to Fill a Trump-Sized Hole, Russian Propagandists Turn on Each Other:

    https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/...h-other-57217#
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    Gorka on pro-Russia ‘peace plan’: ‘1000s have died in Crimea’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMXHMSSIK8#
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/u...e-russia.html#

    Remember Gorka is a Trump NSC advisor.....
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    Russia FM Lavrov charges #Ukraine (UNSC president) stonewalls condolence statement on Amb Churkin ... one day after UNSC issues statement.
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    For the second time this week, NATO has intercepted Russian bombers above the Baltic
    http://europe.newsweek.com/nato-inte...e-week-559096?

    Strange.....
    Non-official Novorossiya museum in St. Petersburg has been closed & all exhibits confiscated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The death of the Russian UN ambassador is interesting for a number of reasons applying to both Ukraine and Syria....

    Churkin was important part of Russian foreign relations, propaganda, spy/disinformation network - was Rus. Amb to UN since 8 April 2006

    Russia effectively dismantled International security system, vetoed decisions by UNSC, limiting adopted decision to Kremlin versions

    Since 2006, Russia seized part of Georgia(2008), Crimea(2014), Donbas (2014), provided support to Assad in Syria, launched world cyberwar

    On 30 Dec 2016, Rus UN compound in NY was shut down in connection on attack on U.S elections
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/12/...tion-hacking/#
    SEVEN Russian senior diplomats have died since 19 DEC 2016.....is that not strange....

    A pro-Trump twitter bot network gets to work sharing news of Churkin's demise, for some reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Another good profile of #Ukraine's #Firtash, canary in the coal mine for Trump Justice Dept on #Russia
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...e-gilded-cage#

    A major win for the rule of law...this arrest was instituted under though the Obama WH..

    Firtash is key to understanding a lot of what Putin has done in Crimea and eastern Ukraine and is key in a number of extremely large Russian oligarch money laundering schemes including rumors of Putin being involved....

    BREAKING: Vienna court grants US extradition request, ruling against Dmitry #Firtash. Judge now explaining decision

    He had effectively fought against this for over six long months....after he was unexpectedly arrested while staying in Vienna....where he did not believe the Austrians would arrest him...due to large businesses also being in Austria...
    Firtash can evade prison term if he "sells out" Russian leaders – Gerashchenko
    https://www.unian.info/politics/1788...shchenko.html#

    Serious question...will he even survive making to the US and survive in the US due to what he knows about Putin and eastern Ukraine....

    THIS is the key point....
    Firtash will flip on Manafort like a flapjack:
    http://www.the-american-interest.com...-connections/#
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Now watch him flee to Russia.....

    Ukr Prosecutor's Office of Crimea started criminal proceedings on treason by Ukr MP Artemenko ("Crimean lease")
    http://lb.ua/news/2017/02/21/359305_...o_protiv.html#

    ACTUALLY what is interesting is some of his thoughts were previously stated by a working group led by Kissinger in Finland back right after Russia annexed the Crimea....in 2014....
    Rogue Ukrainian lawmaker is coming to Washington to pitch a peace plan
    http://read.bi/2m8VdMY
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    SBU released tapped phone calls of Rada MPs where they propose bills & legislation per money inflow & direct orders from Moscow.

    A Rada MP requests 2 MPs to a session where she were promised 9. The MPs would be paid $500 for sitting 20 minutes, no speech, no statements

    Released evidence of Ukraine MP tapped phone calls working on behalf of Russian money lords. All prices in USD.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmPH-8Nro1o#
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    SBU released tapped phone calls of Rada MPs where they propose bills & legislation per money inflow & direct orders from Moscow.

    A Rada MP requests 2 MPs to a session where she were promised 9. The MPs would be paid $500 for sitting 20 minutes, no speech, no statements

    Released evidence of Ukraine MP tapped phone calls working on behalf of Russian money lords. All prices in USD.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmPH-8Nro1o#
    When Obama said after resignation he will live in a $4M condo Rada MPs died in laughter as for them as a minimum a house begins at $25M.

    Rada MP bluntly states the person from Lviv who brings 6 local MPs for a Rada commission will receive monthly salary $2000.

    Rada MP looks for 3 MPs on whom is allotted total $150K budget to participate on Rada briefing making $50K per participating MP.
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    All yesterday in Russia....

    Russian media is trying desperately hard to sell the misleading headline (the lie) that Kyiv blocked a UN statement honoring Churkin today.
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    Azor...remember that question concerning "separatists" or Russian mercenaries starting the war in eastern Ukraine.......

    Never forget who started the war. #Russian #FSB officer, founding father of so-called #Donetsk Republic #DNR #DPR

    BTW...notice in all the waves of "sudden deaths and assassinations" he is still very much alive and kicking in St. Petersburg....
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    RU 79-year-old MP Kobzon denies he has a "DNR" "passport" he received in May 2016
    https://tvrain.ru/news/kobzon-428232/#
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    Russian TV shows #fake 'anti-terror operation' to hide arrests of #CrimeanTatar activists
    http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1487723784#
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    Ukraine prosecutors: Lawmaker's plan for "leasing" Crimea to Russia may have been treason
    http://nyti.ms/2lDNcC4

    Actually surprisingly his own political party threw him out as RADA MP yesterday.......
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    From yesterday....

    18:08 #Avdiivka @LuftGanza #Lastochkyne & #Orlovka: no electricity, great [voltage] drop, series of explosions in #Promka dir'n, rear attack
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    RU 79-year-old MP Kobzon denies he has a "DNR" "passport" he received in May 2016
    https://tvrain.ru/news/kobzon-428232/#
    Moscow is Handing Out Russian Passports in Donbass Even as Putin Recognizes DNR and LNR Ones
    http://www.interpretermag.com/february-20-2017/#16136#
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    Azor....something for your question on this....my off the records number is around 4800 though.....

    More than 3000 Russian troops and "vacationers" killed in East Ukraine - observer
    http://m.ostro.org/general/society/news/519767/#

    NGO "Gruz-200" published a list of >3000 Russians killed in the Donbas war.

    the problem is separating the active duty Russians from volunteers....the +200 body shipments back to Rostov were usually active duty Russian military....

    Killed Russian volunteers were thrown into mine shafts...or buried in unmarked graves....of which there are many in Donbas now...and cremated as well....

    My 4800 is actual Russian active duty killed....
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    For the second time this week, NATO has intercepted Russian bombers above the Baltic
    http://europe.newsweek.com/nato-inte...e-week-559096?
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    Feb21 #Donetsk "Vehicles of 60th column of RF Emercom's hum.aid reached delivery points in Luhansk&Donetsk regions"
    No "republics" anymore?
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