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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Actually this is a great example of Russian altered state of reality after demanding 18B plus from Ukraine for gas and then losing their court case to the tune of 35B.

    Actually Germany could then claim using this Russian model the total of 41B Euros used over 25 years to clean up environmentally damaged Soviet bases and Soviet training areas that are just about finished that the Russians just walked, drove away from in 1994...this goes for the other Eastern and Central European countries that housed Soviet troops....there are stretches of the Baltic Sea front that cannot be used due to massive amounts of Russian UXOs that no EOD clean up company anywhere in Europe wants to touch....

    In one fuel depot...instead of shipping the 40K liters of diesel back to SU they either sold it on the GDR black market or opened the valves a let it drain into the drainage systems damaging underground water reserves for years....
    Firstly, Russia can simply play hardball, as it has before. One does not merely take a gangster to civil court.

    Secondly, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary suffered likewise as members of the Warsaw Pact, as well as the various member states of the Soviet Union, such as the suffering inflicted by nuclear tests in Kazakhstan.

    Thirdly, I recall that the Northern Group of Forces reneged on various agreements with the People's Republic of Poland in terms of paying for the use of utilities, discipline of drunk and disorderly soldiers, etc.

    I would imagine that Germany will pursue land claims in Poland with greater vigor

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    Default Baltic Standoff Highlights Cold War ‘Lite’ Between Russia and NATO

    From the Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/program/baltic...e-russia-nato/

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 88
    By: Pavel Felgenhauer
    June 29, 2017 04:26 PM Age: 13 mins


    Introduction:

    The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) has completed its plan, announced last year (July 9, 2016) at the Alliance’s Warsaw Summit, to deploy four multinational battalions to Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania as a counter to the apparent Russian threat on its eastern flank, in the Baltic region. Speaking from Brussels a week ago (June 20), NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announced, “NATO has fulfilled its promise to deploy the four battalions to defend our Alliance, deter aggression and keep the peace. The deployment is now complete, and they are fully operational.” A day earlier, the last allied combat contingent—from Canada—arrived in Latvia. Overall more than 4,000 soldiers from 15 countries—Canada, Albania, the United States, Spain, Italy, Poland, Slovenia, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxemburg, Norway, the United Kingdom, Denmark, France and Romania—have been deployed (Militarynews.ru, June 20).
    • Stoltenberg exaggeratingly refers to these multinational battalions as “NATO battlegroups”
    • The U.S. has increased its combat presence in Europe from two brigades to three
    • The increase in forces remains at the level of a tripwire and the multinational aspect is a handicap operationally, but it signals to Moscow that an attack on the Baltics would start a war with most, if not all NATO members
    • Moscow is also increasing its capabilities by creating 20 new military units in the WMD and 40 new bases
    • The WMD has more than 30 ready Battalion Tactical Groups, and readiness has increased 2.5X since 2016
    • The Russian military is deliberately exaggerating the threat from NATO in order to increase its funding and social status, but this is causing a costly standoff
    • European countries are increasing their defense spending and readiness, but the Russian military-industrial-intelligence complex seems to desire this contest
    • The Russian people, however, do not fear NATO as a threat so much as the U.S., and because of Russian propaganda about Russia’s military prowess, they believe that they are secure (whereas in 2015, more than 2/3 feared an imminent foreign invasion)
    • The Kremlin will struggle to bridge the gap between public perceptions of the threat and its own alarmist rhetoric

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    Default It is a fire-rushing, not a swastika sign!

    This picture does not appear to be on a public building, however distasteful and the cited source / report starts with:
    During the festivities, Saldū was decorated with a building, which caused confusion among the inhabitants. The council, on the other hand, is comforting - the rules are not violated, because the creepy dcor is a fire-rushing, not a swastika sign.....this year the owner of the ornament decided to give preference to the ancient Latvian folklore sign of fire - ugunskrustam," explains Dina Neimeta, a social and international relations specialist of the Saldus District Council.
    For more images of thehttps://ztzks.wordpress.com/perkona-zime/ symbol:
    Strange to some I agree, I have no doubt there will be offensive displayed symbols elsewhere.
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