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    Reference the i131 leakage being reporting in multiple European locations...

    While European authorities keep telling us, they have no idea where the sudden Iodine-131 rise across the continent comes from ...

    EXTREMELY unusual to see a RC135 Rivet Joint on this type of mission as it is a elint and sigint aircraft....

    DEFINTELY searching for something.....and it is just not a let's just go out and fly around game....and get some air time in....these aircraft cost big bucks to fly...something or somebody is in serious trouble somewhere....i131 is associated to a nuclear reactor...

    Nuke sniffer - Constant Phoenix
    Airborne from RAF Mildenhall
    US Air Force - WC-135C
    62-3582 FLORY58

    Tracking over the North Sea
    USAF Rivet Joint
    62-4138 PULPY81
    USAF Constant Phoenix
    62-3582 FLORY58

    Tracking north off the east coast of Scotland.
    RC-135W & WC-135C + 3 accompanying KC-135 tankers...

    NOW 11 minutes ago
    Two of the Constant Phoenix / Rivet Joint supporting KC135 tankers returning to RAF Mildenhall @TheAviationist

    They're running higher alt than usual. Probably to get a better detection level....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference the i131 leakage being reporting in multiple European locations...

    While European authorities keep telling us, they have no idea where the sudden Iodine-131 rise across the continent comes from ...

    EXTREMELY unusual to see a RC135 Rivet Joint on this type of mission as it is a elint and sigint aircraft....

    DEFINTELY searching for something.....and it is just not a let's just go out and fly around game....and get some air time in....these aircraft cost big bucks to fly...something or somebody is in serious trouble somewhere....i131 is associated to a nuclear reactor...Nuke sniffer - Constant Phoenix
    Airborne from RAF Mildenhall
    US Air Force - WC-135C
    62-3582 FLORY58

    Tracking over the North Sea
    USAF Rivet Joint
    62-4138 PULPY81
    USAF Constant Phoenix
    62-3582 FLORY58

    Tracking north off the east coast of Scotland.
    RC-135W & WC-135C + 3 accompanying KC-135 tankers...

    NOW 11 minutes ago
    Two of the Constant Phoenix / Rivet Joint supporting KC135 tankers returning to RAF Mildenhall @TheAviationist

    They're running higher alt than usual. Probably to get a better detection level....
    https://theaviationist.com/?p=41273

    U.S. WC-135 nuclear sniffer airplane has left the UK heading towards Norway and the Barents Sea

    By David Cenciotti

    The WC-135 Constant Phoenix has launched from RAF Mildenhall earlier today for a mission towards northern Europe and the Barents Sea. Interestingly, an RC-135W spyplane has launched from the same base on the same route. What’s their mission?
    As you probably already know, on Feb. 17, 2017, U.S. Air Force WC-135C Constant Phoenix Nuclear explosion “sniffer,” serial number 62-3582, deployed to RAF Mildenhall, UK, using radio callsign “Cobra 55.”

    Whereas it was not the first time the Constant Phoenix visited the British airbase, the deployment to the UK amidst growing concern about an alleged spike in iodine levels recorded in northern Europe fueled speculations that the WC-135 might be tasked with investigating the reason behind the released Iodine-131.

    In fact, along with monitoring nuclear weapons testing, the WC-135 can be used to track radioactive activity, as happened after the Chernobyl nuclear plant disaster in the Soviet Union in 1986 and Fukushima incident back in 2011, by collecting particles and chemical substances in the atmosphere, days, weeks, or sometimes even month after they were dispersed.

    Whilst the reason of the deployment has yet to be confirmed (actually, there are still contradictory reports about the spike in Iodine-131) the WC-135 has departed for its first mission since it arrived at Mildenhall: on Feb. 22, at around 11.50LT, the nuclear “sniffer” aircraft has departed for a mission towards Norway and the Barents Sea.

    The WC-135C (radio callsign “Flory 58”) was supported by two KC-135 tankers (“Quid 524” and “525”)suggesting it had just started a very long mission and somehow accompanied, along the same route, by an RC-135W (“Pulpy 81”) and another Stratotanker (“Quid 513”).
    Tracking north off the east coast of Scotland.
    RC-135W & WC-135C + 3 accompanying KC-135 tankers…
    pic.twitter.com/y8LIAxRpoh

    — CivMilAir (@CivMilAir) February 22, 2017
    It’s hard to guess the type of mission this quite unusual “package” has embarked on: investigating the alleged iodine spike? Collecting intelligence on some Russian nuclear activity? Something else?

    Hard to say.

    For sure, once the aircraft reached Aberdeen, eastern Scotland, they turned off their transponder becoming invisible to the flight tracking websites such as Flightradar24.com or Global.adsbexchange.com that use ADS-B, Mode S and MLAT technologies to monitor flights: a sign they were going operational and didn’t want to be tracked online
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference the i131 leakage being reporting in multiple European locations...

    While European authorities keep telling us, they have no idea where the sudden Iodine-131 rise across the continent comes from ...

    EXTREMELY unusual to see a RC135 Rivet Joint on this type of mission as it is a elint and sigint aircraft....

    DEFINTELY searching for something.....and it is just not a let's just go out and fly around game....and get some air time in....these aircraft cost big bucks to fly...something or somebody is in serious trouble somewhere....i131 is associated to a nuclear reactor...

    Nuke sniffer - Constant Phoenix
    Airborne from RAF Mildenhall
    US Air Force - WC-135C
    62-3582 FLORY58

    Tracking over the North Sea
    USAF Rivet Joint
    62-4138 PULPY81
    USAF Constant Phoenix
    62-3582 FLORY58

    Tracking north off the east coast of Scotland.
    RC-135W & WC-135C + 3 accompanying KC-135 tankers...

    NOW 11 minutes ago
    Two of the Constant Phoenix / Rivet Joint supporting KC135 tankers returning to RAF Mildenhall @TheAviationist

    They're running higher alt than usual. Probably to get a better detection level....
    Constant Phoenix and Rivet Joint both returned to RAF Mildenhall UK
    USAF RC135W 62-4138 PULPY81
    USAF WC-135C 62-3582 FLORY58
    pic.twitter.com/k0TvSLHNle

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    MAYBE this story which I think is a cover story might be designed to end the i131 story....
    https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/02/22/3...KvjGAU.twitter

    Sorry, ‘Sniffer’ Fans: WC-135 Isn’t Smelling Russian Nukes

    The U.S. Air Force’s WC-135 Constant Phoenix aircraft, capable of detecting nuclear explosions, deployed to the United Kingdom last week for a routine mission, the service said Wednesday.

    The “nuke hunter” plane, also known as the “sniffer,” is on a “pre-planned rotational deployment scheduled in advance,” Air Force spokeswoman Erika Yepsen told Military.com.

    The WC-135 “regularly flies around the world for missions,” added Col. Patrick Ryder. “Any of the reporting in terms of having another reason [is] not grounded in fact,” the service’s chief spokesman said.

    There has been ongoing speculation the U.S. sent the detection aircraft to Europe after an alleged Russian nuclear test, which caused radioactive levels to “spike” in areas such as Norway, according to The Aviationist blog, which first tracked the aircraft Feb. 17.

    The aircraft belongs to the 45th Reconnaissance Squadron, 55th Operations Group, at Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska.

    According to the The French Radioprotection and Nuclear Safety Institute, a research organization and environmental protection advocacy agency that tracks nuclear activity throughout the globe, trace amounts of Iodine-131 (131I) — a radioisotope of iodine that has a radioactive decay half-life of about eight days — were detected in Norway, Finland, Poland, the Czech Republic, Germany, France and Spain throughout January.

    The presence of Iodine-131 “is proof of a rather recent release,” the organization said.

    Government agencies have not come forward to explain the radiation. Experts, however, say the leaks are not a mystery.

    Scientist Jayde Lovell, host of TYT network’s ScIQ and executive director of ReAgency, a PR firm that specializes in science storytelling, told the International Business Times UK, “Iodine-131 is not a mystery.

    “It’s released in low levels normally as part of nuclear power and, since nuclear power is common throughout Europe, it’s not unusual to be able to detect trace amounts during certain types of weather, particularly the cold weather of a European winter,” she told the newspaper.

    “I would be expecting to see a lot more and more different kinds of radiation than just Iodine-131 if it was a nuclear test,” Lovell said.
    Why a cover story....if one tracks the reported flow of the i131 reporting's they started out in northern Norway/Finland then followed by reports from Poland and then Czech Republic...then mid to southern Germany...southern France and then ending in southern Spain.

    The so called winter excuse given in this report is totally false as the wind conditions at the time were mainly from East to West and changing at the end of the eight days back to West to East.....and based on the half life it would have died out over Spain....

    If in fact as the story states it is far normal NPP operations...the initial reports did not originate in an area where there is a heavy concentration of NPPs....actually none to speak of able to create a moving cloud capable of being detected.

    WHAT is also interesting ....if the WC-135 was on routine missions...then why was it then not announced as it flew very quietly into UK...and only after being tracked by civilian observers does this story now come out....

    And the article does not explain the joint operation yesterday with a RC-135W SIGINT aircraft...which normally flies their own collection routes recently over the Baltic and Black Sea areas....

    BLUF:
    There has been absolutely no comments made by any EU Research Center as to why the levels of i131 were high enough to actually track...nor has any EU government commented on this...nor why initially reported in northern Norway and Finland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    MAYBE this story which I think is a cover story might be designed to end the i131 story....
    https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/02/22/3...KvjGAU.twitter

    Sorry, ‘Sniffer’ Fans: WC-135 Isn’t Smelling Russian Nukes



    Why a cover story....if one tracks the reported flow of the i131 reporting's they started out in northern Norway/Finland then followed by reports from Poland and then Czech Republic...then mid to southern Germany...southern France and then ending in southern Spain.

    The so called winter excuse given in this report is totally false as the wind conditions at the time were mainly from East to West and changing at the end of the eight days back to West to East.....and based on the half life it would have died out over Spain....

    If in fact as the story states it is far normal NPP operations...the initial reports did not originate in an area where there is a heavy concentration of NPPs....actually none to speak of able to create a moving cloud capable of being detected.

    WHAT is also interesting ....if the WC-135 was on routine missions...then why was it then not announced as it flew very quietly into UK...and only after being tracked by civilian observers does this story now come out....

    And the article does not explain the joint operation yesterday with a RC-135W SIGINT aircraft...which normally flies their own collection routes recently over the Baltic and Black Sea areas....

    BLUF:
    There has been absolutely no comments made by any EU Research Center as to why the levels of i131 were high enough to actually track...nor has any EU government commented on this...nor why initially reported in northern Norway and Finland.
    BTW..comments from Ukrainian military sources indicate the WC-135 yesterday was in fact checking for i131 levels...that is why the initial radar track altitude was higher than normal....and the RC135W was checking for possible Russian military chemical/nuclear troop cleanup of a nuclear accident...

    Range of the air ops was long if one notices they flew with three refueling tankers....

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    ALSO airborne at exactly the same time as this USAF air package were:...

    Meanwhile over the Netherlands/Belgium
    Two x NATO E3 Sentry AWACS

    AND

    Airborne from RAF Waddington
    Royal Air Force
    RC135W Rivet Joint
    ZZ664 ROOSTR31

    AN amazing amount of air recce abilities and fuel tankers all airborne at the same time....

    ALL recce and fuel tankers turned off all IFF and transponders so not to be tracked...AWACS remained on....
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