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    Default Will Iran change its Syria strategy now?

    Not unexpected, but this Iranian action has several points of note; notably the IRGC use of SSM launched from Iran to hit ISIS targets in Eastern Syria:
    Iran has launched missile strikes targeting “terrorists” in the Islamic State-controlled Syrian town of Deir ez-Zour in retaliation for last week’s attacks on the Iranian parliament and at the shrine of Ayatollah Khomeini that killed 18 people – mostly civilians.
    Link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ld-syrian-town

    The Syria threads IIRC show that ISIS has not been the focus of the Iranian-supported coalition; will that now change after the Tehran attack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    UNCONFIRMED

    Breaking : US coalition shoot down a regime warplane who was attacking SDF near Tabqa!

    Unconfirmed: #Assad-forces lost Fighter Jet near Rusafa south of Tabqa in #Raqqa province

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    Reports coming of international anti-ISIS coalition downing Assad's air force jet after it bombed Kurdish positions SW of Raqqa
    AND the Trump FP for Syria is again exactly what????

    This is not going to end well........

    BREAKING: Russia to consider any airborne objects detected west of Euphrates River - including coalition aircraft - as legitimate targets.

    US is in trouble as Trump hasn't the intellect, experience or temperament to grasp / react to developing global events.

    BUT WAIT...now comes Trump supporters ......

    You all think Trump wants a war with Russia? you are delusional.. The leftist dems and globalist GOP want this pathetic war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    AND the Trump FP for Syria is again exactly what????

    This is not going to end well........

    BREAKING: Russia to consider any airborne objects detected west of Euphrates River - including coalition aircraft - as legitimate targets.

    US is in trouble as Trump hasn't the intellect, experience or temperament to grasp / react to developing global events.

    BUT WAIT...now comes Trump supporters ......

    You all think Trump wants a war with Russia? you are delusional.. The leftist dems and globalist GOP want this pathetic war.
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    Russia waters down threat to Coalition aircraft. Now says will 'escort'. A few minutes ago said would be tracked by Russian SAMs as targets

    Russia claimed to kill Baghdadi east of the Euphrates. West is west and east is east and always the twain shall meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Not unexpected, but this Iranian action has several points of note; notably the IRGC use of SSM launched from Iran to hit ISIS targets in Eastern Syria:
    Link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ld-syrian-town

    The Syria threads IIRC show that ISIS has not been the focus of the Iranian-supported coalition; will that now change after the Tehran attack?
    I don't think so.

    I believe that the Iranian strike was not for the benefit of Daesh. Given Iran's presence on the ground in Iraq and Syria, with the IRGC operating along with Iraq's PMUs and effectively leading the Syrian "National Defense Forces", why would Teheran have waited until after it was attacked to make a significant strike against Daesh?

    No, the missile strike was to signal Iran's resolve to the United States and to Pakistan. The latter has been the traditional sponsor of Sunni Islamists in Iran, and yet its sponsored groups were curiously quiet during Obama's tenure, despite the Iranian-inflicted carnage in Syria. Perhaps Trump has greenlit Islamabad to set Iran ablaze?

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    New details on #Syria jet shoot down: US F18 fired 2 missiles at range of .6 miles; 1st missed, 2nd blew rear SU-22 off; chute spotted

    Assad claims the pilot was killed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    I don't think so.

    I believe that the Iranian strike was not for the benefit of Daesh. Given Iran's presence on the ground in Iraq and Syria, with the IRGC operating along with Iraq's PMUs and effectively leading the Syrian "National Defense Forces", why would Teheran have waited until after it was attacked to make a significant strike against Daesh?

    No, the missile strike was to signal Iran's resolve to the United States and to Pakistan. The latter has been the traditional sponsor of Sunni Islamists in Iran, and yet its sponsored groups were curiously quiet during Obama's tenure, despite the Iranian-inflicted carnage in Syria. Perhaps Trump has greenlit Islamabad to set Iran ablaze?
    Azor...you have to get your facts straight for a change...."greenlit Islamabad"...the last comments coming out of the Trump WH is just the opposite...a massive hardening of US positions AGAINST Pakistan.....

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    U.S. Central Command‏
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    U.S. aircraft shoots down armed Shaheed-129 pro-Syrian #UAV advancing on Coalition forces near #alTanf #Syria

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    Footage
    of Hezbollah-affiliated TV: More and more #Iranian armed forces equipment is seen in the Syrian desert.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaYixnXo_0#

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    NE. #Hama: pro-Assad ambushed by #ISIS near Sheikh Hilal (NE #Salamiyah), leaving many casualties & T-62 knocked out
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...500458&z=11&m#

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    https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/877152860089323522

    Video footage of a Russian helicopter striking Daesh shown on a mobile device to Oliver Stone by Vladimir Putin appears to be a video from a U.S. helicopter raid in Afghanistan from 2013.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...you have to get your facts straight for a change...."greenlit Islamabad"...the last comments coming out of the Trump WH is just the opposite...a massive hardening of US positions AGAINST Pakistan.....
    Outlaw,

    What happens in public and what happens behind closed doors are two very different things. In addition, Washington's view of Pakistan's activities with regard to the Pashtuns straddling the Durand Line and Pakistan's activities with regard to the Sunnis and/or Balochis in Iran are two very different things.

    Try to keep up, mon ami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Outlaw,

    What happens in public and what happens behind closed doors are two very different things. In addition, Washington's view of Pakistan's activities with regard to the Pashtuns straddling the Durand Line and Pakistan's activities with regard to the Sunnis and/or Balochis in Iran are two very different things.

    Try to keep up, mon ami.
    BUT WAIT...did not Pakistan openly as did Turkey "side with Qatar"...which if I recall the Trump series of tweets is the kingmaster of funding of terrorism...right???

    So "greenlit" get real.....

    And if I recall Trump and his merry band in the WH also wanted to name MB as terrorists after his KSA visit BUT if I also recall Tillerson pulled him back and stated MB sits officially in some governments.....

    "Greenlit"....really...

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    Rumors that Russia established a military base near the Iraq-Syria border northeast of al-Tanf #Syria
    http://palmyra-monitor.net/2017/06/21/%D9
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    Russian regime news keep lying, claiming #Assad jets bomb #ISIS in #Damascus' #Jobar district.
    IS has never been there.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYcn7RGEQc#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Outlaw,

    What happens in public and what happens behind closed doors are two very different things. In addition, Washington's view of Pakistan's activities with regard to the Pashtuns straddling the Durand Line and Pakistan's activities with regard to the Sunnis and/or Balochis in Iran are two very different things.

    Try to keep up, mon ami.
    Azor...that "Greenlit".....

    Turkish troops now reportedly in Qatar amid row between Doha + Saudi Arabia
    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/wor...74/story.html#

    BTW....Pakistan has also indicated they would send troops....

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    Russia is still trying to claim al Baghdadi as being killed by RUAF....even though their FM stated we are not 100% sure.....

    Russian dep foreign minister: MoD says there is “high degree of certainty” that Rus air force killed Isis leader al-Baghdadi at end of May.

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    Default Drones Are Dropping Like Flies From the Sky Over Syria

    By Tom Cooper at War is Boring: https://warisboring.com/drones-are-d...ky-over-syria/

    Introduction:

    Syria is buzzing with drones. There are days when the people of Idlib governorate can simultaneously see Russian Orlan tactical UAVs, Iranian Ababil, Mohajeer and Shahed-129s and CIA or U.S. Air Force MQ-9 Reapers circling the same air space.

    It’s not much different over southern Syria. There it’s Hezbollah from Lebanon, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, Israel, Jordan and the United States that are operating UAVs.

    Frankly, I ceased counting all the shoot-downs of various mini-UAVs over Syria ages ago. Small commercial-style drones are relatively easy to knock out with small-arms fire. But considering the crowd of larger UAVs, it’s hardly surprising that the various combatants have begun shooting these down, too.
    Highlights:

    • U.S. aircraft actually began shooting down Iranian UAVs over Iraq 8 years ago
    • The SyAAF has shot down UAVs operated by Israel (as far back as 2006) and Jordan
    • Despite CJTF-OIR claims that the IRGC Shahed-129 UAV shot down on June 20, 2017 was armed and threatening, Shahed-129 cannot carry weapons at present

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    11 weapons used by Russia's elite Spetsnaz operators
    http://read.bi/2rZrjfG

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    Artem Gorelov from Izhevsk, Russia, who earlier fought for Ru-backed rebels in Ukraine, was killed in Syria, likely serving in "Wagner" PMC

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