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    HAS Assad again used CWs.....


    Jobar News map of the military situation in Jobar Neighborhood. Seems some kind of chemical weapon has been allegedly used on 2 fronts.
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    Default Bitter US-Russian Standoff in Syria—More Hot Words Than Real Harm

    From the Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/program/bitter...rds-real-harm/

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 84
    By: Pavel Felgenhauer


    Introduction:

    A series of military incidents involving the United States, Russia, and their allies in Syria and the Baltic region have additionally hurt already strained US-Russian relations. As sign of its acute displeasure, Moscow canceled high-level talks between Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov and US Undersecretary of State Thomas Shannon, which were planned for June 23, in St. Petersburg. Ryabkov lambasted the US for adding 38 individuals and organizations to its list of sanctions “as a political gift” to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who visited Washington this week (June 20) and met with President Donald Trump at the White House. According to Ryabkov, “There is nothing to discuss fruitfully with Washington today.” Ryabkov accused the Trump administration of supporting “the party of war in Kiyv” and of “following the lead of prominent Russophobes in the US Congress” (Mid.ru, June 21). The cancelation of the St. Petersburg round of Ryabkov-Shannon talks calls into question plans for the first face-to-face meeting between Trump and President Vladimir Putin, on the sidelines of the upcoming (July 7–8) G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.
    The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed displeasure over:

    • The shooting down of the Syrian Su-22 on June 18
    • The US base near al-Tanf, with special forces and HIMARS artillery
    • The shooting down of two Iranian UAVs
    • The bombing of pro-Assad armored columns (twice)


    However, Russia has not attempted to hold U.S. aircraft operating around al-Tanf at risk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    From the Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/program/bitter...rds-real-harm/

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 14 Issue: 84
    By: Pavel Felgenhauer


    Introduction:



    The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed displeasure over:

    • The shooting down of the Syrian Su-22 on June 18
    • The US base near al-Tanf, with special forces and HIMARS artillery
    • The shooting down of two Iranian UAVs
    • The bombing of pro-Assad armored columns (twice)


    However, Russia has not attempted to hold U.S. aircraft operating around al-Tanf at risk...
    JUST a side comment...what we are actually seeing in Syria is not an Obama nor a Trump and his merry band FP....

    We are seeing a SecDef Mattis FP backed up by AIM 9s.....and specific Iranian counter air strikes.....to enforce a red line policy.

    The Mattis FP problem begins the exact day he attempts to take back under control those advanced weapon systems given to the PKK....after Raqqa...

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    Rebels have killed an #Assad Brigadier General and many other #Assad fighters at #Madinat_al_Baath today.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=33...5469&z=14&m=b#

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    Syria: Rebels launched the offensive "Road to #Damascus" in #Quneitra Province. #Israel has destroyed regime artillery and tanks today.

    Rebel gains Ba'ath City #Quneitra:
    • Bridge Detachment
    • Mubashrat al-Hajar
    • Fire Tower
    • Quarries
    • al-'Arbaein
    • Governate Building


    Israeli aircraft targeted two syrian tanks and other Syrian army Sites in Quneitra

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    In response to over 10 projectiles launched from Syria, IAF aircraft targeted origin of launches & 2 Syrian tanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    JUST a side comment...what we are actually seeing in Syria is not an Obama nor a Trump and his merry band FP....

    We are seeing a SecDef Mattis FP backed up by AIM 9s.....and specific Iranian counter air strikes.....to enforce a red line policy.

    The Mattis FP problem begins the exact day he attempts to take back under control those advanced weapon systems given to the PKK....after Raqqa...
    I would disagree that Mattis has a specific foreign policy that he is executing. However, Mattis is an obviously good interlocutor with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Combatant Commanders. What we are observing is a continuation of Obama's policies with regard to Syria, albeit with the military empowered tactically.

    Where Trump and Obama differ is on Iran. I doubt that Trump will unilaterally abrogate the JCPOA, given the advice of the foreign policy, intelligence and defense communities, however, he will not kowtow to Iran's adventures in Iraq and Syria merely to ensure that Iran upholds it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    I would disagree that Mattis has a specific foreign policy that he is executing. However, Mattis is an obviously good interlocutor with the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Combatant Commanders. What we are observing is a continuation of Obama's policies with regard to Syria, albeit with the military empowered tactically.

    Where Trump and Obama differ is on Iran. I doubt that Trump will unilaterally abrogate the JCPOA, given the advice of the foreign policy, intelligence and defense communities, however, he will not kowtow to Iran's adventures in Iraq and Syria merely to ensure that Iran upholds it.
    Mattis is effectively now driving Syrian FP tactically speaking just as Trump has given DoD the authority to drive the new changes in AFG...WHY because if it goes south he can claim DoD was the cause not Trump.....

    Definitely not following the Obama model...

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    Russia negotiating deployment of Kyrgyz and Kazakh contingents in Syria
    http://uawire.org/news/russia-negoti...ents-in-syria#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Mattis is effectively now driving Syrian FP tactically speaking just as Trump has given DoD the authority to drive the new changes in AFG...WHY because if it goes south he can claim DoD was the cause not Trump.....

    Definitely not following the Obama model...
    If what you say is true about Trump distancing himself from possible failure in Syria, which seems unlikely given Daesh's imminent defeat as a conventional force, then there is no differentiation from the "Obama model" wherein the White House micromanaged military operations to avoid offending Iran, causing civilian casualties and deploying major ground forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    If what you say is true about Trump distancing himself from possible failure in Syria, which seems unlikely given Daesh's imminent defeat as a conventional force, then there is no differentiation from the "Obama model" wherein the White House micromanaged military operations to avoid offending Iran, causing civilian casualties and deploying major ground forces.

    Again a misnomer...."IS defeat".....tactically a battlefield defeat BUT IS is a very long way from being "defeated"....show me a "defeated ideology" that was "defeated" in under 70 years???

    Some might point to Communism but heck even Putin and his oligarchs evolved out that Communism and he is now trying to raise from the dead Stalin....so really "defeated" afraid not even Communism....

    Even in Mosul they have mounted a strong counterattack and in Diyala Province they are constantly ambushing ISF with solid results in ISF loses....

    They will eventually shift back to guerrilla warfare and keep the entire 400K ISF busy for years....

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    Quneitra: Rebels have killed #Assad Colonel Tariq Ali Hammoud in #Quneitra Province. He was a friend of Bashar #Assad.

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    AND again just what is the Trump FP strategy for ME...???

    War is business" esp. in Syria: Russian firm linked to "Putin's chef" reportedly to get 1/4 of oil it reconquers
    http://www.fontanka.ru/2017/06/26/084/

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    WH issued a warning yesterday to Assad not to use CWs as they have detected a possible preparing for such an attack.....

    2X RC-135 Combat sent + Rivet Joint in E med. Yesterday 1 snooped #Syria shores, then WH warned of chem attack. Same tracks today as yesterday?

    Second attachment is from yesterday...this time US Recce is out in force today 27 JUN...

    Letting both Putin and Assad thoroughly understand the warning sent to them yesterday....

    Callsign a warning to Assad? REPAY21
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    THIS is certainly not the Trump IS plan nor his ME FP....

    Aleppo: Reports about final preparations for the Turkish-backed offensive against YPG in the Afrin Canton.

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    US Forces driving around the city of Tell Abyad on Syria Turkey border. .

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    Syria's regime says they were bombed by the Israelis. So do the Israelis. But Russian military says otherwise. .....Israelis bombed the rebel....not RUAF
    http://goo.gl/1Z6Ryn

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    Assad's air force supported #ISIS again, dropping 18 barrel bombs in #FSA positions in S-W #Daraa.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyHk4DBvBEM#

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    Geolocation of the reported #Turkey's garrison inside of #Syria's Idlib province.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36...880&z=14&m=bs#

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    Possible Russian SOF around Jobar
    https://youtu.be/Mw-bFeBAAiU?t=48s#

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    ISRAEL: Israeli military struck Syrian Army positions following mortar fire

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.798389#

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