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    Reference Russian shot down of MH17....

    Russia now disputes @JITMH17's findings; says "RU RADAR COULD NOT HAVE MISSED BUK NEAR ROUTE OF #MH17".
    But Russia DID say it WAS a BUK.


    Russia now apparently is admitting a BUK shot down MH17

    So, either it (1) wasn't a BUK (which both RU and @JITMH17 say it was), or (2) Russia gave fake radar data, or (3) Russia lies now.

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    Russian Defence Ministry: reports of a Russian serviceman being captured in eastern Ukraine are "a hoax made up by Ukrainian propagandists"


    BUT WAIT...the Russian GRU Spetsnaz 22 Bde has been in and out of eastern Ukraine since 2014...THIS was though the first member of 22 Bde to be captured alive and well complete with his Russian active duty military IDs and supporting documents...AND with unit social media photos..with him in them.....

    So the Russian statement is FAKE NEWS.....and a "hoax".....NOTICE Russians are now using the Trump term "hoax".....was actually never used before in such statements....

    Then i assume that according to the Russian DefMin the other Russian soldier from the same squad killed near Luhansk is alive and well.

    Recent UAF statement that a Russian GRU recce team had been eliminated.....appears to be been correct....
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    As usual this is how the Kremlin treats its own GRU Spetsnaz troops!
    Ukraine: "We killed & captured Russian soldiers."
    Russia: "They resigned in May 2016."

    BTW...when Russia denies something the opposite is actually correct so he was in fact a GRU officer.....
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    Default The Role of, and Implications for, Sub-State and Non-State Actors

    A short article, which points towards the author's new book and they explain:
    ...we seek to rectify this by examining their role in the evolution of the conflict, looking at topics such as the popularity of the separatist movement in Donbass, the perception of local political elites, the involvement of private armies and the implications for regional security across the post-Soviet space: how has the annexation of Crimea affected the separatist territories of South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria?
    Link:https://defenceindepth.co/2017/06/28...-state-actors/
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    As usual this is how the Kremlin treats its own GRU Spetsnaz troops!
    Ukraine: "We killed & captured Russian soldiers."
    Russia: "They resigned in May 2016."

    BTW...when Russia denies something the opposite is actually correct so he was in fact a GRU officer.....
    Russia lying here, of course: BBC has multiple sources confirming captured RF soldier Ageyev signed contract with Russian army in March 2017


    BTW...normal contract is for three years so signed 2017...MAR 2020...end date of contract.....

    BUT if he was in fact GRU Spetsnaz then he has been longer than before 2017...he must have just shifted over from normal military to the professional contract....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia lying here, of course: BBC has multiple sources confirming captured RF soldier Ageyev signed contract with Russian army in March 2017


    BTW...normal contract is for three years so signed 2017...MAR 2020...end date of contract.....

    BUT if he was in fact GRU Spetsnaz then he has been longer than before 2017...he must have just shifted over from normal military to the professional contract....
    Other 4 GRU operatives detained alive in Luhansk region.
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    Former head of breakaway #Moldova|n region of #Transnistria Ievghenii Sevciuc reportedly fled the entity:

    https://www.svoboda.org/a/28584007.html

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    Aggressive Russian “soft power” in Ukraine on eve of the war:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/aggressi...e-of-the-war/#

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    A short article, which points towards the author's new book and they explain:
    Link:https://defenceindepth.co/2017/06/28...-state-actors/
    Yes, I read this article yesterday. A couple of interesting points that lean more toward Galeotti than Goble in perspective:

    However, paramilitary troops on both sides have subsequently become an obstacle to effective and efficient military operations, resisting efforts to either integrate them into regular armed forces or disband them...

    A variety of other non-state and sub-state actors have either been involved in or impacted by the ongoing crisis in Ukraine and the book also examines the role of the Russian diaspora in Ukraine, civil society (which Laura Clearly asserts has generally been classed as apathetic, weak and ineffectual) and the Russian approach to sub-state actors across the post-Soviet space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Yes, I read this article yesterday. A couple of interesting points that lean more toward Galeotti than Goble in perspective:

    What is totally forgotten since 2014 is that the actual entry of Girkin into Donbass with his 14 man GRU Spetsnaz right after the little green men entered Crimea.....

    There had not been a single event of violence prior to Girkin arriving then the so called "locals" supported by Girkins team started the so call "separatist movement".

    If the latest polling is correct and IMHO it is the normal people still living in eastern Ukraine are finally fed up with the fighting and the isolation and want the fighting to stop and be back under Ukraine control.....you see this same development now inside the so called Russian element in Crimea....

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    Russian Hybrid Army lost 13 soldiers, one tank and one BMP, but occupied new positions near #Kamyanka in grey zone

    One Ukrainian soldier killed, 9 wounded in 35 attacks by Russian Hybrid Army yesterday

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    Abandoned by #Russia: a scout from 22nd Brigade of the GRU captured by Ukrainian #Army (video)
    https://informnapalm.org/en/abandone...n-army-video/#

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    Amazing: Lavrov admits Russia is a combatant in Eastern Ukraine, despite years of pretending otherwise
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    Identified: Russian contract soldier of 291st Artillery Brigade in Novorossia illegal armed groups:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/identifi...armed-groups/#

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    Month 33 after #Russia signed the #Minsk protocol saw no halt in (pro-)Russian armed violence.

    23 KIA
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    Expert: Crimea on the verge of withering, Kremlin prepares ultimatum for Ukraine
    http://uawire.org/news/expert-crimea...um-for-ukraine


    Russia is experiencing major problems with the water supply to the annexed Crimea. Draught is affecting the agriculture and the industry of the peninsula and the steppe could turn into a lifeless wasteland. In order to resolve this problem, Vladimir Putin may take a radical step – giving Ukraine an ultimatum, writes political columnist Sergey Stelmakh in a blog post for Krym.Realii.

    “The Kremlin cannot acknowledge its own failure. Moscow is preparing the information groundwork for a future ultimatum to Ukraine: either Kyiv unblocks the North Crimean Canal, or the Kremlin will use force,” Stelmakh believes.
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    FSB went astray: two border guards from Blagoveshchensk detained in Kherson Oblast:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/fsb-went...erson-oblast/#

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    Bad news for #Putin. @jensstoltenberg is coming to Kyiv to discuss #Ukraine's prospects of joining #NATO.

    Moderator adds: This information is from Anton Sestritsyn‏ @asestritsyn , not the NATO Secretary-General. The NATO website has nothing on such a visit.
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    Dutch journalists indirectly confirm place of residence of Russian officer involved in MH17...
    https://www.unian.info/society/20075...dy-video.html#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Bad news for #Putin. @jensstoltenberg is coming to Kyiv to discuss #Ukraine's prospects of joining #NATO.

    Moderator adds: This information is from Anton Sestritsyn‏ @asestritsyn , not the NATO Secretary-General. The NATO website has nothing on such a visit.
    Again this morning 0900 Ukrainian sources are indicating a NATO visit...NATOitself has not publicly rejected this announcement....

    NATO has in fact deepened its engagement into Ukraine over the last six months....down to training to NATO standards and the reorg of the UAF to NATO standards.......and building NATO based training centers for both officers and NCOs and for joint exercises complete with a computer based simulation center.....

    This was the original announcement...

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    10 липня запланований візит до Києва Генсека #НАТО Єнса Столтенберга @jensstoltenberg Проговоримо перспективи членства України у НАТО @NATO

    BTW...this single tweet caused a sudden automated Russian troll/bot spamming attack on the account that sent the tweet.......triggered by the use of the term HATO.....

    For more info on this automated style of Russia troll/bot attack see Russian propaganda thread.
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