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    Had not a lot of posts concerning this individual been deleted one could then fully understand the role of the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist movement in their support to both Trump and their intertwining with Russian information warfare trolls and bots...

    The Alt-Right Branding War Has Torn the Movement in Two

    By Andrew Marantz
    6 JUL 2017

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...ovement-in-two

    Well worth reading as it is important to understand just how these two proTrump social media support systems are being pushed and played by Russian info warfare using Russian trolls and bots...on a daily basis...

    The phrase “alternative right” has been critiqued on several grounds: that it’s too vague; that it obscures the extent to which the movement is coterminous with the rest of the Republican base; that it’s a euphemism for white supremacy. The definition has shifted over time, both inside and outside the movement, such that, for a while, it was impossible to tell whether any two people who referred to the alt-right were referring to the same thing. During the Presidential campaign, the term came to denote several intersecting phenomena: anti-feminism, opposition to political correctness, online abuse, belligerent nihilism, conspiracy theories, inflammatory Internet memes. Some pro-Trump activists adopted this big-tent definition, allowing any youthful, “edgy” critique of establishment conservatism to be considered alt-right. But a core within the movement always insisted on a narrower conception of the alt-right, one that was inextricably linked with white separatism, and with Spencer specifically.
    Now the boundaries are set. Spencer and his allies have won the branding war. They own the alt-right label; their right-wing opponents are aligning themselves against it, working to establish a parallel brand. It has become increasingly clear that this is not a mere rhetorical ploy but a distinction with a difference.
    During the Presidential campaign, the term alt right came to denote several intersecting phenomena: anti-feminism, opposition to political correctness, online abuse, belligerent nihilism, conspiracy theories, inflammatory Internet memes. Some pro-Trump activists adopted this big-tent definition, allowing any youthful, “edgy” critique of establishment conservatism to be considered alt-right. But a core within the movement always insisted on a narrower conception of the alt-right, one that was inextricably linked with white separatism, and with Spencer specifically.
    Now the boundaries are set. Spencer and his allies have won the branding war. They own the alt-right label; their right-wing opponents are aligning themselves against it, working to establish a parallel brand. It has become increasingly clear that this is not a mere rhetorical ploy but a distinction with a difference.
    It is now a battle between the white nationalists behind Mike Cernovich and white supremacist Spencer who is married to a Russian with former ties to Russian Today in Russia

    Cernovich was behind the twitter campaigns using the hashtags CNNBlcakmail, Syrianhoax and Marconleaks...which got picked up by the US Nazi Party and Russian trolls and bots...
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    REMEMBER the goal of Russian propaganda, disinformation, fake news is based in their use of the 6Ds Principles....

    Distort....Distract....Dismiss....Deflect.....ALL designed to create Doubt and Distrust....

    Question now is are they succeeding??


    Trump’s leaks crackdown sends chills through national security world

    Agency officials say measures have been taken to isolate leakers, creating a culture of fear.

    By Ali Watkins and Josh Dawsey
    07/07/2017 05:11 AM EDT
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-chills-240274


    National security officials across the federal government say they are seeing new restrictions on who can access sensitive information, fueling fears in the intelligence and security community that the Trump administration has stepped up a stealthy operation to smoke out leakers.
    Officials at various national security agencies also say they are becoming more concerned that the administration is carefully tracking what they’re doing and who they’re talking to — then plotting to use them as a scapegoat or accuse them of leaks.

    One U.S. official voiced concern over even talking to their superiors about a benign call from a reporter. The agency this official works for had started limiting staff’s access to information, they said, and it would make it far easier to figure out who was talking to people in the media.
    There was suspicion, the official said, that the agency was even tracking what they printed, to keep tabs on what information they were accessing.
    BLUF....
    the Trump WH leaks faster than most previous WHs.....they do not mind who leaks they just want to control it...

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    From former Acting AG who warned Trump about Flynn's problem with Russian connections.........

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    POTUS' inexplicable refusal to confirm Russian election interference insults career intel pros & hinders our ability to prevent in future.

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    Last time posting to anything on SWJ...not wanting to say I told you so I am...sad that many are not smelling the coffee right about now on the complete sell out of the US and it's democracy....

    Lavrov: "Trump mentioned that in US certain circles still inflate subject of Russian meddling in elections, even though they have no proof."

    RIA-Novosti: Putin told by @POTUS "some circles in the US are exaggerating the topic of Russian cyber meddling."
    http://bit.ly/2tV8qPO

    Tillerson says Russian approach to Syria - mass civilian casualties, displacement, total destruction - may be "more right" than US approach

    Tillerson: "We want to build on commonality... maybe they've got the right approach and we've got the wrong approach." Jesus, Mary & Joseph

    So Tillerson will accept Crimea, Donbass, Russian carpet bombing Syria, and undermining elections across the West. Let's move forward

    Here we go. Munich conference all over again. Ukraine gets thrown under the bus without a seat at the meeting table.

    BLUF......
    Lavrov says Trump "accepted" Putin's assurances that Russia did not hack the U.S. election.
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    Now convince me that Trump is not colluding with Russia and that the FOUR key USG ICs got it totally wrong and that the massive FBI SC Mueller investigation is also getting it wrong.....

    A US President truly believes a number of HoIS over the USG IC that swears an oath to "defend the US from enemies near and far"...

    And some say I am on a soap box??
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    NOW we fully understand the Trump cyber security plan for the US...took him over 170 days and with the Russians but he now has one it seems.....


    RU-US cybersecurity initiative supported by both Trump and Putin today...and they both agreed to set up a joint group to address it..

    The fox literally stealing the chickens instead of a Trump guarding the chicken coop....instead he steals them with assistance of the US President...

    No wonder Putin wants to see proof of RU hacking. Wants to find how our IC knows & shut the source...so in fact Trump "trusts FSB, SVR and GRU over his own USG ICs??

    AND some say I have been on a "soap box"??
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    So who now is actually lying....Tillerson and or Lavrov?????

    Betting Tillerson unless he can actually release the official transcripts if any were written....

    Tillerson: Trump "pressed" Putin on Russia meddling in US election

    Lavrov: Trump said meddling was "exaggerated" & "accepts" Putin's denials


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