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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NOW this same Congressman is apologizing for his video efforts....SO what the heck was he thinking in attempting to tie the Holocaust under Nazi's to the Muslim immigrant issue???

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Forgot...he was just parroting Trump and the entire alt right ie white nationalist movement....which is very strong in LA BTW....

    SEEMS others fully understood what this LA Congressman fully meant with his video.....EVEN if he ignores it himself in his apology.....

    WHY does it take Europeans to educate US Congressmen.....in of all things history????


    HINT...look at what you the US are currently doing...sometimes looking at your reflection in a mirror is extremely helpful....

    This may not be Trump 's "fault", but Trump has created a climate ripe for such ethical & moral transgressions.
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    US President Donald Trump is to argue that the future of Western civilisation is at stake in a keynote speech in the Polish capital Warsaw.

    Holding up Poland as an example of a country ready to defend civilisation, he will warn against the threats of "terrorism and extremism".
    Poland's conservative government shares Mr Trump's hostile view of immigration and strong sense of sovereignty.
    Mr Trump is in Poland ahead of a G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany.

    "Because as the Polish experience reminds us - the defence of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail," Mr Trump will say, according to excerpts released from the speech.


    "The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive."

    The "fundmental question" that Trump has yet to answer...in his drive to appease and accommodate Putin......"does he fully and completely understand the inherent Russian infowar and cyber war threat directed at and which still continues against the US"??

    THAT he Trump has yet to accept nor release his US cyber defense plan he promised within 90 days.....

    That is the "fundamental question"....AND Trump will continue to not answer that "question"....

    ACTIONS speak louder than words and right now Trump is all words.....in his response to the inherent Russian threat against the US which he must defend as part of his oath he must fulfil as President...
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-06-2017 at 08:47 AM.

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    BUT WAIT...in this important Polish Us press conference Trump true to form does this.....

    Trump starts attacking NBC & CNN in news conference in Warsaw

    BUT NOTICE this.....

    US Pres Donald Trump says in press conference in Warsaw:
    "We are working with Poland against Russia's actions and destabilising behaviour"

    Trump says absolutely nothing about Russian behaviour in the US elections as a destabilising behaviour does he?????
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    AND Trump still does not really admit to the same conclusions as do 17 USG ICs...that Russia both hacked and meddled in the 2016 US elections...

    Before Putin talks, Trump plays down interference in U.S. election


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us..._medium=Social

    One day before his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that no one knows for sure whether Moscow intervened in the 2016 U.S. election but that he suspected Russian involvement.

    Speaking to reporters in Poland, Trump played down the assessment of his own intelligence agencies that Russia meddled in the election by hacking Democrats' emails and distributing online propaganda.

    “I think it was Russia, but I think it was probably other people and/or countries, and I see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure,” Trump told a news conference
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    As I have posted here a number of times....Russian use of "money" as a soft power feature in their non linear war against the US and West in general is something that has picked up the pace since 2008 and continues until this very day.....

    Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe
    Russia-born dealmaker linked to Trump

    Sater was a Russian OC member in New York before going to work for Trump in the Soho Trump Tower....then shifted to working for the FBI as an informant during this period.

    https://www.ft.com/content/159eb2d8-...4-0ac7eb84e5f1


    Donald Trump faces renewed scrutiny of the riches that flowed into his real estate empire from the former Soviet Union after a fixer for a Kazakh family accused of pumping dirty money into US property agreed to assist an international investigation into his former business partners.Felix Sater, a Russian-born dealmaker with organised-crime connections who worked on property ventures including Trump Soho in Manhattan, has attracted attention in recent months as efforts continue to chart the links between the US president’s circle and moneymen from Russia and its neighbours.In October the Financial Times revealed Mr Sater had helped the family of Viktor Khrapunov, a former Kazakh minister now exiled in Switzerland, invest millions in US real estate through front companies. The Khrapunovs have spent heavily across the US, including, records indicate, buying apartments in Trump Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    I have been warned for being on a so called "soap box" and an entire series of tweets from proTrump alt right ie white nationalist tying into the Russian use of propaganda bot and trolls....especially around the CNN events have been removed as well as a posting on the anti Semitic ties to that CNN meme that the original poster had along with tens of anti Semitic postings...

    WHAT was removed was probably one of the best documented tie ins between proTrump alt right social media trolls and bots and Russian connections even into the French election and the hacking of Marcon....

    If one fully and completely understands that Russian non linear warfare uses both the right and ultra right and left and ultra left then the use of anti Semitic memes and postings is not unusual....it is actually common....for Russia propaganda and disinformation ie Soros....

    So then this is not unusual to see referring then to Trump.....

    Polish TV reported that Trump consulted far-right anti-semitic Polish-American historian to prepare Warsaw speech
    http://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/07/05...-right-links/#

    In my work world I am 300% use to having to fend off Russian hacking attacks and working with customers that are having to do the same..what I am not use to is an interesting form of censorship......

    REMEMBER right now US politics is in fact driving US FP and vice versa.....and that is not a soap box comment.....

    If any SWJ commenter does not agree then post and state why.....but surprisingly no comments are ever posted...even though the read numbers are high.....

    BLUF...am amazed that even SWJ accepts Russia meddling in all forms and in any media...

    To defeat Russian info warfare you must be able to fully dissect that and then actively push back....all the time not just some of the time...
    From the article....
    Trump is going to speak at a public rally near the 1944 Warsaw Uprising monument. Right-wing groups are organising buses to transport people from all over Poland in order to provide a big crowd for the event. Apparently it is the first US President in many years whose visit to Poland does not include a tribute to the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising memorial that is a short walking distance from the other monument at a time when antisemitism has been reportedly on the rise in both USA and Poland
    Chodakiewicz himself appeared in the report and commented on the speech’s contents. It has also been reported Chodakiewicz is to be a member of the presidential delegation flying to Warsaw.
    The report raised eyebrows because of Chodakiewicz’s long record of far right links. He is mostly known as a denier of Polish responsibility for acts of antisemitism, including the infamous Jedwabne pogrom of 1941.
    He has repeatedly claimed Jews themselves were chiefly responsible for the hostility of their Polish neighbours. Accusations of Jewish involvement with Communism have been present in many of Chodakiewicz’s writings.
    A frequent contributor to Polish right-wing media, he has recently referred to Bernie Sanders as “a Jewish bolshevik”.

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    Hacker Who Aided #Russian Intelligence Sentenced to 2 Years
    https://nyti.ms/2tQhjKz

    Like other cybercriminals-turned-government hackers, Shaltai Boltai’s members are believed to have collaborated with Russian intelligence personnel, namely, those from the Federal Security Service.

    That led to the arrest of Sergei Mikhailov, the deputy director of the service’s cybersecurity organ, and one of several individuals arrested around the same time as the members of Shaltai Boltai and charged with treason, though the authorities never publicly linked the two cases.

    Mr. Mikhailov’s possible ties to Shaltai Boltai emerged in Russian news reports. Other Russian news outlets reported a competing theory for the intelligence officer’s arrest: that he had passed to the F.B.I. secrets about Russia’s government-backed hacking programs, helping in the investigation of Russian meddling in the presidential election.

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    Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....

    Investigators looking into possible Russia collusion with pro-Trump websites: report

    http://hill.cm/C3TRlG7

    Investigators are reportedly looking into whether there was coordination#between Russia and pro-Trump websites during the 2016 presidential election.
    The Guardian reported#investigators are trying to find out if#there was any coordination between Moscow#and pro-Trump or#far-right websites regarding the publication#of fake news.
    That includes stories targeting#2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
    A report last month said Brad Parscale, the#digital director of President Trump's 2016 campaign, was expected to be invited to speak with the House Intelligence Committee.
    Parscale oversaw online advertising and voter targeting for Trump's campaign.
    Reference Brad Parscale...have previously posted a number of comments referencing his digital activities......using big data from SCL and Cambridge Analytica....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....
    Trump supporter admits vandalizing an elementary school with anti-Trump graffiti hoping to frame liberals
    http://hill.cm/9kF3GHd
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reference Americans actively working to push Russian propaganda into the US, France and Germany.....under the guise of proTrump social media accounts....

    Investigators looking into possible Russia collusion with pro-Trump websites: report

    http://hill.cm/C3TRlG7

    Reference Brad Parscale...have previously posted a number of comments referencing his digital activities......using big data from SCL and Cambridge Analytica....
    Let us see exactly what is currently known about Russian influence and hacking operations within the US currently and during the 2016 election and the European elections of Netherlands, France and now coming in Germany....

    In order to look intensively at the thread one would in theory thoroughly need to understand the Russian non linear warfare doctrine released by the Russians shortly after their military annexation of Crimea...with the two key cornerstones...

    1. cyber warfare
    2. information warfare and a new one
    3. softpower through the use on money...lots of money

    But postings on this have been deleted....so I am assuming all fully understand non linear warfare....

    1. there is an ongoing active social media war afoot in the US driven by an alliance between the ultra right in Russia and Russian trolls and bots supporting a similar ultra right and right wing US social media botnets and blogsites..it has now reached the level of actual death threats against accounts known to be releasing accurate reporting on the Trump collusion and against anyone supporting them as well as mobbing and stalking...

    2. they share the same conspiracy theories and fake news and they push all Wikileaks hacked emails of western leaders and or Clinton

    3. the FBI is now expanding their Russian connections to Trump into this area was well especially between alt right ie white nationalist blogsites such as Infowars and Breitbart.com

    4. Fox News has taken on the leading voice for this movement much in the same way Russia Today does for the Russian government....

    5. an approved Congressional 200M USDs to be used in fighting back against this info war has been largely not used by the Trump WH nor has it queried Congress on how to use that money

    6. we have seen a tight group of 30 proTrump alt right social media accounts push a massive disinformation attack against CNN built around FAKE information in order to discredit CNN and silence a MSM outlet

    7. we have seen the complete personal voting records and other personal data on 200M US voters complied by a GOP contractor SCL placed onto an unsecured Amazon cloud server which after 21 days was "stolen"..by whom is not known....AND yet the Trump WH says not a single word about this massive data theft of US voter information

    8. the Trump created "Fraud voting commission2 has basically requested the same exact information and that information will not be secured by US government facilities and internet security ..rather it will be stored somewhere in the WH and is to be used by WH...

    9. we have seen Russian APT 28 a state sponsored hacking group hack the email accounts of the now French President and then released them in the same fashion as with the Clinton and Podesta emails

    10. we have seen and confirmed an ongoing Russian disinformation and influence operation ongoing in Germany due to the coming election

    11. we have seen a deliberate cyber war unleashed as a practice session on the entire Ukraine economy and it bled over to other major businesses resulting in economic losses exceeding 1B USDs

    12. we now see in a Trump interview he still does not accept the proven fact that Russia both hacked and meddled and meddled is a mild word in the 2016 election

    13. we know that a total of 21 State voting databases were in fact hacked and in six cases voter data was exfiled out of those data bases

    14. we now that two "big data" companies SCL and Cambridge Analytica used an "voting social engineering concept" to drive a digital media messaging directly into the US against potential Trump voters and in an attempt to suppress Democratic voting.....ARE now under FBI investigation for exactly this "social engineering"....

    15. we know that these tow companies where initially owned by Bannon current special advisor to Trump who sold them shortly before the election and who still sits on their boards...

    16. we know that now the FBI Russian Trump investigation has expanded from initially 15 field agents to now a rumoured 170

    17. we know the number of top flight success proven Federal prosecutors has now climbed to 16 working with SC Mueller in the areas of organized crime, money laundering, Russian collusion and obstruction/cover up

    18. so 170 plus 15 does not seem to indicate as Trump constantly states.....everything is a "FAKE"......

    19. we now see a very active attempt to shut down the 1st Amendment of free speech and free press with open and massive attacks on virtually the entire MSM AND an attempt to shut down all live cameras in the daily WH press conferences

    19. we see an active and open Trump and Trump supporter attacks on US Federal judiciary decision and judges

    20. Trump has to yet released his much promised US cyber defense plan and probably never will as he rejects the idea that Russia hacked the US

    So to argue that we can simply move on and ignore it is like walking into a dark tunnel with no light facing an oncoming freight train with no lights and saying to ourselves everything is going to be fine....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    As I have posted here a number of times....Russian use of "money" as a soft power feature in their non linear war against the US and West in general is something that has picked up the pace since 2008 and continues until this very day.....

    Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe
    Russia-born dealmaker linked to Trump

    Sater was a Russian OC member in New York before going to work for Trump in the Soho Trump Tower....then shifted to working for the FBI as an informant during this period.

    https://www.ft.com/content/159eb2d8-...4-0ac7eb84e5f1
    Felix has decided his FBI pals can protect him from his ROC/FSB pals. That's one high-stakes wager right there.

    Sater has played a lot of different sides since 1998...Russian crime boss, FBI and CIA informant and it now seems FBI informant again....

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    Does anyone here at SWJ see a repeat of the Trump Russian FM meeting.....

    Tillerson is working hard to get the sanctions lifted for a Exxon 500B USD oil deal and there is not a single NSC and or Hill a Russian expert in the room....

    And this is really going to work out well for the US.....

    The only extra people reportedly inside the Trump-Putin meeting will be Tillerson, Lavrov, and translators.
    https://www.axios.com/coming-attract...54467032.html#


    So outside of Trump himself and Tillerson who has been failing as SoS who will actually know what Trump says and or agrees to???

    Normally the NSA and or a Russian expert has always been in such meetings in the past and now????

    From a former US Ambassador to Russia.....under Obama

    Michael McFaul

    @McFaul
    Putin likes small meetings. If true, WH obviously letting Kremlin dictate the terms of the meeting. Not good. At minimum, HR must be there.


    WHAT does Putin truly have over Trump???
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-06-2017 at 07:41 PM.

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