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    I keep posting on the fundmental elements of the Russian non linear warfare and information warfare as the Russians truly believe that through cyber operations and info warfare they can actually shift the belief patterns of an entire society...

    What was employed by the GOP using "big data2 was is referred to as "voting social engineering" and it was carried out by the Trump son-in-law via an IT company in San Antonio using input from two UK big data companies SCL and Cambridge Analytica...both owned to a degree by Trump special advisor Bannon before he sold them to the billionaire trump supporter Mercer...Bannon still sits on their boards....

    WHY do I bring this up...even the WH chief of Staff admits this....

    Reince Priebus‏
    #@Reince
    With a strong candidate in @POTUS & @GOP revolutionary data program, Republicans carried WI for 1st time in 30 years

    http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loca...a66af71cb.html

    The data program was especially helpful in October, when the party noticed that Trump had lost ground in Wisconsin compared to the previous month#— and specifically targeted voters who had drifted away in an effort to bring them back, Parnitzke said.
    That wouldn't have been possible without a "voter scores" data operation that has been built, expanded and refined over the course of each election since it was launched after Democratic President Barack Obama's re-election in 2012.
    This GOP data concept involved the targeted use of specific social media narratives much in the Russian vain of using trolls and automated bots to push a propaganda narrative.....

    REMEMBER....it was SCL that suddenly "lost 200M US voter datasets" on an unsecured Amazon could server..."lost to whom2 is not known at this time nor is SCL talking about it....

    REMEMBER both SCL and CA are under FBI SC Mueller investigation reference the Russian hacking of the election and of 21 State voting databases......and the potential theft of information from a US healthcare company....

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    If Trump doesn't raise election interference with Putin, he's inviting more in 2018
    http://wapo.st/2uDkhis?tid=ss_tw-bot....b8ff146e0049#

    Currently the US still has not seen the Trump promised within 90 days cyber defense plan.....NOR has Trump actually openly and publicly stated yes he knows Russia hacked the US election and voting databases in 21 states.....

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    Maine Secretary of State, who serves on Trump election commission, refuses to turn over voter data to Kris Kobach. 40+ states now resisting

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    AND from the current leader of the KKK who is totally peaceful and does not utter a single word of hate.....or racism...or is anti Muslim .......or anti immigrant....and this is not propaganda??


    David Duke‏#
    @DrDavidDuke

    I have literally been the target of "Journalist" terrorism for 50yrs. The climate of hated/violence your profession has created is shameful.

    The leader of the KKK critiquing journalists for attacking the KKK....

    Information warfare comes in various colors and forms.....US or Russian and lately they are sharing the same goals for some strange reason....

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    CNN is reporting that Trump won’t raise Russia’s attempt to throw our election when he meets Putin, even though Russia will try again in ’18

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    This is interesting for a number of reasons and gives maybe some insight into why individuals tend to say go "alt right" in an attempt to impress and or in an existing group of like believers...

    Actually an excellent example of why and how "propaganda and or disinformation" works via influence......

    REMEMBER the Trump CNN video...it came from a sub Reddit account T_Donald which is a heavy proTrump account similar to many alt right ie white nationalist proTrump twitter accounts.....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Trump takes down CNN in mock fight video

    Han***holeSolo, the Reddit user behind the now-famous video showing Trump body-slamming the CNN logo, apologized#Tuesday in a post on the website.

    In a lengthy post on the popular social media site, Solo apologized for past anti-Semitic posts, and to CNN for the video.

    "I would like to apologize to the members of the Reddit community for getting this site and this sub embroiled in a controversy that should never have happened," Solo wrote.
    "I would also like to apologize for the posts made that were racist, bigoted, and anti-semitic. I am in no way this kind of person, I love and accept people of all walks of life and have done so for my entire life."
    So exactly what affected this end user to go "alt right" in order to impress and join a so called like minded group.......

    What were the series of bot tweets and or narratives that "spoke to him" to push him into this area that he claims he never was in????

    That is why the Russian and now Trump influence operations are so effective....

    NOW couple that with "big data" and the concept of "voting social engineering" and information operations that push such social media messaging and narratives....targeting end users such as above....

    AND further.....

    "The meme was created purely as#satire, it was not meant to be a call to violence against CNN or any other news affiliation," they wrote.#"I had no idea anyone would take it and put sound to it and then have it put up on the President's Twitter feed."
    Solo went on, calling trolling an "addiction" and urging other Redditors to reject bullying.
    "Trolling is nothing more than bullying a wide audience," they wrote. "Don't feed your own self-worth based upon inflicting suffering upon others online just because you are behind a keyboard."
    "We as#redditors#and as Americans are better than this."
    The Reddit user also wrote that despite the meme's content, they have respect for the First Amendment and reporters.
    "Our first amendment protects the press from things like violence, and we as American citizens should respect that even if the opinions of the press are not in line with our own," Solo wrote.
    "I have the highest respect for the journalist community and they put their lives on the line every day with the jobs that they do in reporting the news."
    BUT here is where I seriously doubt what he is actually saying.....

    WHY...this same individual immediately after it was known that Trump had used his meme.......he "boasted" on the same site "the Great Imperial Emperor2 had used his meme and he was honoured by that.....and was cheered on by those on this specific Reddit site.....

    BTW he used the term trolling.....an interesting comment which I will comment on later...
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    MORE examples of just how Trump uses social media much as the Russian's use social media.....for propaganda and disinformation or in this case...just outright lies.....

    Donald J. Trump‏
    @realDonaldTrump

    Gas prices are the lowest in the U.S. in over ten years! I would like to see them go even lower.

    What is the "narrative" that he is trying to create..."see I as President have been in a short period able to lower your personal gase price to level never seen in the last ten years"....REMEMBER he keeps repeating over and over "I have achieved far more in a short period than any other President"...meant here is Obama....THUS Trump tweets like this are designed to re-enforce that "narrative".....

    When "fake" is being used...the user attempts to use a tad bit of "truth"..in this case current gas prices to establish the tweet as "valid truth"...

    The target audience then picks it up and uses it to justify their own world views as it "fits nicely" into that world view...

    WHAT is though not told the target audience is actually the missing piece of information that would indicate what they are reading is in fact "fake and or a blatant lie"....

    The user of this type of propaganda whether Russian and or Trump counts on the fact that the reader and or target audience will never see the counter balancing "truth"....

    THUS we see an "alternative truth" being created and used in the place of straight simple facts that anyone can check and use....

    NOW one can see how social media is being used as a form of "weaponized information" by both Russians and Trump......there is no difference between the two.....

    Chart is taken from the government site EIA part of DoE.....
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    It is now interesting to see Wikileaks getting into this info warfare tussle on Reddit......and involving CNN...WHICH Assange immediately attacks...

    REMEMBER the servers and Hostkey for those Wikileaks servers sit inside Russia under the control of a known Russian oligarch tied to RIS......and WL has constantly released hacked info from the Russian state sponsored hacking group APT 28....and "Shadowbrokers"......who hacked NSA......

    From Wikileaks a now known Russian RIS media outlet and Russian hacking center......
    Julian Assange‏#@JulianAssange
    When Trump goes low CNN goes lower: threatens to dox artist behind "CNN head" video if he makes fun of them again
    http://archive.is/o7izm#selection-1233.0-1233.73#…

    NOTICE the WL term "artist" for creating a meme.....

    Julian Assange‏#
    @JulianAssange

    CNN just committed a crime violating § 135.60 of the New York criminal code "coercion" http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-la...-135-60.html#…
    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/841825706720038913#…

    WL with this single tweet has itself admitted to violating the NY law they accuse CNN of doing BUT this time 9,000 times with their release of hacked emails on just about anyone.....

    NOTICE the CNN statement........they would "unmask" the name only if the individual violates his own apology....

    WL "unmasks" names every time they release Russian hacked emails.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    When one does an analysis of Russian non linear warfare one tends to not focus on Russian crime groups and how they are intertwined into Russia non linear warfare and Russian cyber warfare...

    CRIMINTERN: HOW THE KREMLIN USES RUSSIA’S CRIMINAL NETWORKS IN EUROPE
    Mark Galeotti
    http://www.ecfr.eu/page/-/ECFR208_-_...N_EUROPE02.pdf

    Quote in the article that one needs to fully understand.....

    "In Russia we have power and protection...in Europe we have wealth and comfort"........

    This quote also applies to the US....especially now in the Trump Russian connections investigation.....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Something that is often overlooked in Russian non linear warfare is the key Russian "soft power"......money..."black money"....and plenty of it.....
    IMPORTANT NOTE

    One just needs to see how many Federal prosecutors on the SC Mueller Russian Trump investigation team have been directly involved in US Russian organized crime court cases and how many of these prosecutors speak Russian to understand one part of the SC Mueller investigation of Trump, his family and his associates....

    It has always been...criminal meaning money laundering, collusion and cover up....

    We are way way past anything that was conducted by Nixon during WaterGate....as it involves an outside foreign power....that is directly conducting a political war with the US using non linear warfare tactics....

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    BUT ON THE OTHER HAND......

    NRA just released a new ad....that is part authoritarian, part incitement to violence, part call for a physical civil war against liberals.

    BUT no apology is being issued for this alleged call to violence.....
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    NOW the proTrump alt right ie white nationalists swing into action.....


    Mike Cernovich #
    Verified account
    @Cernovich

    How brave of CNN, a multi-billion dollar corporation, to go after a private citizen.

    NOTE
    Cernovich is involved as well in the SC Mueller FBI Russian connection investigation as someone who has extremely close ties to the Russian botnet and troll networks that are pushing propaganda and disinformation into the US...ANd he was involved in disseminating the hashtag Marconleaks after WikiLeaks leaked the hacked email account of the French President Marcon.....

    AND Cernovich has had extremely close ties to the Le Pen Front National during the French election....

    andrew kaczynski #
    Verified account
    @KFILE

    CNN specifically choose not to reveal this guy's identity and to say we threatened anyone is a total lie.

    "HanAssholeSolo" posted his apology before we *ever* spoke him. He called us afterwards to apologize further.
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    Cernovich then started the twitter hashtag.....CNNBlackmail..........

    The twitter hashtag CNNBlackmail when you conduct analysis of it is a bot pushed twitter trending event right now....this time bot meaning humans not automated computer controlled bot networks.....

    The "outrage machine" is increasingly a literal term.
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    Example of just how a normal American Congressman also et "fooled2 by proTrump alt right ie white nationalists driving a twitter hashtag ......

    AND he never even checked for the "truth"...just twittered away without thinking......

    Scott Taylor‏
    Verified account
    #@Scotttaylorva

    @CNN U basically coerce apology & threaten release of identity if something changes? Pretty sure a line is crossed here. #CNNBlackmail

    This is a U.S. congressman accusing @CNN of blackmail, because they accepted the apology from the meme creator instead of filing a lawsuit.

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    SIDE NOTE:

    Orchestrated efforts to discredit the US MSM media often precede bad news for Trump/assoc's

    There is a serious rumint out there since yesterday that in fact Washington Post is sitting on a major breaking story tying Trump to Russia that they are holding back due to IS requests to not complicate the SC Mueller investigation then they will be allowed to publish the story....contains an audio tape of Trump and others....

    Might actually explain the Trump twitter rage against MSM the last week or so as he knows he must swing his base into not believing a single thing published by MSM....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BUT ON THE OTHER HAND......

    NRA just released a new ad....that is part authoritarian, part incitement to violence, part call for a physical civil war against liberals.

    BUT no apology is being issued for this alleged call to violence.....
    EVEN the NRA has it's "Russian connections".......

    https://medium.com/@LaddEveritt/from...a-ffc69088fe41

    From Russia with Love for the#NRA

    It all started with a Russian mobster. Now the gun lobby is buddy-buddy with Moscow and attacking anyone who dares question the Trump-Putin nexus.

    David Keene in 2011. Keene, the former ACU chair, is arguably the most powerful and politically influential president the NRA has ever#hard.
    The National Rifle Association’s relationship with Russia dates back to 2011, when conservative Nashville lawyer G. Kline Preston IV introduced then-NRA President (and former American Conservative Union chair) David Keene to#
    Alexander Torshin, a senator in Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party. Torshin was also known to have ties to the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Russian intelligence agency formerly known as the KGB. Preston is an expert on Russian law whose has a white porcelain bust of Putin in his office.
    In 2012, Preston invited Torshin to observe voting in Nashville, Tennessee during the presidential election. Both men claimed that they saw violations of U.S. law — while holding that Russian elections, in contrast, are free and fair.

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    Senior CNN Executive "The fake news campaign has been remarkably effective. 1/3 of America had been brainwashed, and nothing will change their minds

    Senior CNN: "We get 30 calls a day from Senior White House officials screaming at us for publishing stories that are irrefutably accurate.

    Senior CNN Executive: "We used to get hate mail. Now we get death threats. Hundreds a day."

    Senior CNN Executive: "We have seen and have copies of transcripts of calls between Kushner, Bannon and high level Russian officials".
    "At the least, those two committed treason, and it's hard to believe Trump wasn't part of it".
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    There is an indication that Washington Post is sitting on far more information including audio tapes......than is CNN.......

    THAT is the reason Trump has been bashing both Washington Post and CNN....
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    It is not just Russian we are having problems with now it seems Americans are totally loose cannons wherever they are seen......

    WHAT the heck....??

    ABC News‏
    Verified account
    #@ABC 13h

    Auschwitz Memorial condemns Rep. Clay Higgins for filming homeland security video inside gas chamber at death camp: "It's not a stage"

    http://abcn.ws/2unZY9M

    Just in time for Independence Day, U.S. Rep. Clay Higgins, R-Port Barre, has a video message for America. But instead of visiting constituent cookouts, shooting off fireworks and waving the United States flag, Higgins delivers a stark dispatch from the Nazis' Auschwitz concentration camp at Oswiecim, Poland.
    "A great sense of dread comes over you in this place," Higgins says, leading the viewer on a five-minute, nine-second tour of the site, with a dirge-like solo violin playing in the background. "Man's inhumanity to man can be quite shocking."
    The Auschwitz Memorial's official Twitter account said there should be "mournful silence" inside the gas chamber, where Higgins recorded part of his five-minute video.
    "This is why homeland security must be squared away, why our military must be invincible," says Higgins, a former law enforcement officer#who serves on the House Homeland Security Committee. "The world's a smaller place now than it was in World War II. The United States is more accessible to terror like this, horror like this.
    "It's hard to walk away from the gas chambers and ovens without a very sober feeling of commitment -- unwavering commitment -- to make damn sure that the United States of America is protected from the evils of the world."
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    MORE so called "normal" people buying into the proTrump alt rightist pushed hashtag CNNBlackmail...........

    Gov. Mike Huckabee‏
    Verified account
    #@GovMikeHuckabee

    CNN-the "Corleone News Network". Make fun of them with a humorous gif and they threaten you. On 4th of July no less!
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    Investigators explore if Russia colluded with pro-Trump sites during US election
    Questions raised as to whether Trump supports coordinated with Moscow to spread bogus stories aimed at discrediting Hillary Clinton

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...illary-clinton

    The spread of Russian-made fake news stories aimed at discrediting Hillary Clinton on social media is emerging as an important line of inquiry in multiple investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.
    Investigators are looking into whether Trump supporters and far-right websites coordinated with Moscow over the release of fake news, including stories implicating Clinton in murder or paedophilia, or paid to boost those stories on Facebook.
    The head of the Trump digital camp, Brad Parscale, has reportedly been summoned to appear before the House intelligence committee looking into Moscow’s interference in the 2016 US election. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee carrying out a parallel inquiry, has said that at least 1,000 “paid internet trolls working out of a facility in Russia” were pumping anti-Clinton fake news into social media sites during the campaign.
    In a 30-day period, dozens of full-blown sites appeared overnight, running full level productions posts. It screamed out to me that something strange was going on,” Mattes said. Much of the material was untraceable, but he tracked 40% of the new postings back to eastern Europe.

    Four of the Facebook members posting virulent and false stories about Clinton (suggesting, for example, that she had profited personally by arming Islamic State extremists) had the same name, Oliver Mitov. They all had a very small number of Facebook friends, including one which all four had in common. When Mattes tried to friend them and contact them there was no reply.
    "The spread of fake news aimed @ discrediting HRC is emerging as an impt line of inquiry in multiple SC Mueller FBI investigations"
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