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    This is interesting for a number of reasons and gives maybe some insight into why individuals tend to say go "alt right" in an attempt to impress and or in an existing group of like believers...

    Actually an excellent example of why and how "propaganda and or disinformation" works via influence......

    REMEMBER the Trump CNN video...it came from a sub Reddit account T_Donald which is a heavy proTrump account similar to many alt right ie white nationalist proTrump twitter accounts.....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Trump takes down CNN in mock fight video

    Han***holeSolo, the Reddit user behind the now-famous video showing Trump body-slamming the CNN logo, apologized#Tuesday in a post on the website.

    In a lengthy post on the popular social media site, Solo apologized for past anti-Semitic posts, and to CNN for the video.

    "I would like to apologize to the members of the Reddit community for getting this site and this sub embroiled in a controversy that should never have happened," Solo wrote.
    "I would also like to apologize for the posts made that were racist, bigoted, and anti-semitic. I am in no way this kind of person, I love and accept people of all walks of life and have done so for my entire life."
    So exactly what affected this end user to go "alt right" in order to impress and join a so called like minded group.......

    What were the series of bot tweets and or narratives that "spoke to him" to push him into this area that he claims he never was in????

    That is why the Russian and now Trump influence operations are so effective....

    NOW couple that with "big data" and the concept of "voting social engineering" and information operations that push such social media messaging and narratives....targeting end users such as above....

    AND further.....

    "The meme was created purely as#satire, it was not meant to be a call to violence against CNN or any other news affiliation," they wrote.#"I had no idea anyone would take it and put sound to it and then have it put up on the President's Twitter feed."
    Solo went on, calling trolling an "addiction" and urging other Redditors to reject bullying.
    "Trolling is nothing more than bullying a wide audience," they wrote. "Don't feed your own self-worth based upon inflicting suffering upon others online just because you are behind a keyboard."
    "We as#redditors#and as Americans are better than this."
    The Reddit user also wrote that despite the meme's content, they have respect for the First Amendment and reporters.
    "Our first amendment protects the press from things like violence, and we as American citizens should respect that even if the opinions of the press are not in line with our own," Solo wrote.
    "I have the highest respect for the journalist community and they put their lives on the line every day with the jobs that they do in reporting the news."
    BUT here is where I seriously doubt what he is actually saying.....

    WHY...this same individual immediately after it was known that Trump had used his meme.......he "boasted" on the same site "the Great Imperial Emperor2 had used his meme and he was honoured by that.....and was cheered on by those on this specific Reddit site.....

    BTW he used the term trolling.....an interesting comment which I will comment on later...
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    MORE examples of just how Trump uses social media much as the Russian's use social media.....for propaganda and disinformation or in this case...just outright lies.....

    Donald J. Trump‏
    @realDonaldTrump

    Gas prices are the lowest in the U.S. in over ten years! I would like to see them go even lower.

    What is the "narrative" that he is trying to create..."see I as President have been in a short period able to lower your personal gase price to level never seen in the last ten years"....REMEMBER he keeps repeating over and over "I have achieved far more in a short period than any other President"...meant here is Obama....THUS Trump tweets like this are designed to re-enforce that "narrative".....

    When "fake" is being used...the user attempts to use a tad bit of "truth"..in this case current gas prices to establish the tweet as "valid truth"...

    The target audience then picks it up and uses it to justify their own world views as it "fits nicely" into that world view...

    WHAT is though not told the target audience is actually the missing piece of information that would indicate what they are reading is in fact "fake and or a blatant lie"....

    The user of this type of propaganda whether Russian and or Trump counts on the fact that the reader and or target audience will never see the counter balancing "truth"....

    THUS we see an "alternative truth" being created and used in the place of straight simple facts that anyone can check and use....

    NOW one can see how social media is being used as a form of "weaponized information" by both Russians and Trump......there is no difference between the two.....

    Chart is taken from the government site EIA part of DoE.....
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    It is now interesting to see Wikileaks getting into this info warfare tussle on Reddit......and involving CNN...WHICH Assange immediately attacks...

    REMEMBER the servers and Hostkey for those Wikileaks servers sit inside Russia under the control of a known Russian oligarch tied to RIS......and WL has constantly released hacked info from the Russian state sponsored hacking group APT 28....and "Shadowbrokers"......who hacked NSA......

    From Wikileaks a now known Russian RIS media outlet and Russian hacking center......
    Julian Assange‏#@JulianAssange
    When Trump goes low CNN goes lower: threatens to dox artist behind "CNN head" video if he makes fun of them again
    http://archive.is/o7izm#selection-1233.0-1233.73#…

    NOTICE the WL term "artist" for creating a meme.....

    Julian Assange‏#
    @JulianAssange

    CNN just committed a crime violating § 135.60 of the New York criminal code "coercion" http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-la...-135-60.html#…
    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/841825706720038913#…

    WL with this single tweet has itself admitted to violating the NY law they accuse CNN of doing BUT this time 9,000 times with their release of hacked emails on just about anyone.....

    NOTICE the CNN statement........they would "unmask" the name only if the individual violates his own apology....

    WL "unmasks" names every time they release Russian hacked emails.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    When one does an analysis of Russian non linear warfare one tends to not focus on Russian crime groups and how they are intertwined into Russia non linear warfare and Russian cyber warfare...

    CRIMINTERN: HOW THE KREMLIN USES RUSSIA’S CRIMINAL NETWORKS IN EUROPE
    Mark Galeotti
    http://www.ecfr.eu/page/-/ECFR208_-_...N_EUROPE02.pdf

    Quote in the article that one needs to fully understand.....

    "In Russia we have power and protection...in Europe we have wealth and comfort"........

    This quote also applies to the US....especially now in the Trump Russian connections investigation.....

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp

    Something that is often overlooked in Russian non linear warfare is the key Russian "soft power"......money..."black money"....and plenty of it.....
    IMPORTANT NOTE

    One just needs to see how many Federal prosecutors on the SC Mueller Russian Trump investigation team have been directly involved in US Russian organized crime court cases and how many of these prosecutors speak Russian to understand one part of the SC Mueller investigation of Trump, his family and his associates....

    It has always been...criminal meaning money laundering, collusion and cover up....

    We are way way past anything that was conducted by Nixon during WaterGate....as it involves an outside foreign power....that is directly conducting a political war with the US using non linear warfare tactics....

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    NOW the proTrump alt right ie white nationalists swing into action.....


    Mike Cernovich #
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    @Cernovich

    How brave of CNN, a multi-billion dollar corporation, to go after a private citizen.

    NOTE
    Cernovich is involved as well in the SC Mueller FBI Russian connection investigation as someone who has extremely close ties to the Russian botnet and troll networks that are pushing propaganda and disinformation into the US...ANd he was involved in disseminating the hashtag Marconleaks after WikiLeaks leaked the hacked email account of the French President Marcon.....

    AND Cernovich has had extremely close ties to the Le Pen Front National during the French election....

    andrew kaczynski #
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    @KFILE

    CNN specifically choose not to reveal this guy's identity and to say we threatened anyone is a total lie.

    "HanAssholeSolo" posted his apology before we *ever* spoke him. He called us afterwards to apologize further.
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    Will in fact Trump lift Russian sanctions as a "show of good faith" .....thus in fact allowing Russian hacking of US elections and continued info warfare operations against the US......without any penalty.....without any cost to Russia...

    US Russian Ambassador Kislyak encourages POTUS to break w/ "Washington" on Russia, remove punitive measures for bad Kremlin behavior.

    http://tass.com/politics/954827

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Here are the top contributors under the #CNNBlackmail hashtag. Mostly the same crew involved in other bot-pushed pro-Trump hashtags.

    These accounts often interact with tweets pushed onto Twitter from Russian bots...carrying most of the time the same exact wording .....and or use the Russian tweets to create a "large retwitter storm" to drive a particular hashtag....

    NOTE:
    The twitter account ELEVEN_GOP is a Russian controlled English language bot that was up to a few days ago titled TEN_GOP and was deeply involved in supporting Le Pen twitter accounts in pushing leaked Marcon hacked emails into France from the US...just before the French election.

    APPEARS Twitter suspended TEN_GOP with no warning..... looks like @Support discovered it was a Russian controlled account appearing to be a US account....

    BTW..the chart below is a good indicator of the "human2 driving a lot of the proTrump alt right ie white nationalist messaging and proTrump hashtags and in this case...driving the hashtag CNNBlackmail.....

    BTW....Posobiec and Cernovich drove the hashtag Syrianhoax which was basically retweeting Russian statements that the sarin gas attack as a fake and if real it came from the rebels...they practically used Russian tweets word for word.....

    NOTE:
    Someone must have the twitter account for SoS Tillerson under their control ...cannot believe he would be retweeting CNNBlackmail....
    IMPORTANT to watch this particular hashtag being driven by proTrump alt rightists ie white nationalists......

    The Reddit user behind Trump’s CNN meme apologized. But #CNNBlackmail is the story taking hold.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1


    Mike Cernovich #
    Verified account
    @Cernovich

    CNN's @KFILE is extorting a private citizen, someone not famous, with threats of doxing.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politi...x.html#…

    Mike Cernovich #
    Verified account
    #@Cernovich

    The Memes Wars have begun. #CNNBlackMail

    Mark Dice

    @MarkDice
    The history books will show that on #july4th2017 CNN blackmailed someone who made a joke gif about them. #CNNBlackmail
    5:47 AM - 5 Jul 2017


    NOTICE now the proTrump alt rightist ie white nationalist social media infrastructure kicks in.....

    Overnight, the r/The_Donald board that once hosted the user’s apology and plea for peace was filled up with even more anti-CNN memes, and posts calling for a full-on war against the network. The Trump-supporting Redditors picked up an idea from 4chan’s /pol/ board, organizing mass calls and tweet-storms to a long list of companies, demanding they stop advertising on CNN. The story soon spread to Trump-friendly publications like Gateway Pundit and Infowars.
    The reference to the Redditor’s age comes from#a tantalizing but extremely unconfirmed detail that began to attach itself to the meme as it spread. Was the user#a 15-year-old kid, as many posts on the #CNNBlackmail hashtag repeat as fact? Even though CNN, and screenshots of the user’s own Reddit history seem to contradict this, indicating that the user is significantly older, the notion that CNN had just threatened to doxx a minor was extremely shareable among Trump supporters, including one of the president’s own sons:
    Donald Trump Jr.

    @DonaldJTrumpJr
    So I guess they weren't effective threatening the admin so they go after & bully a 15 y/o? Seems in line w their "standards" #CNNBlackmail
    https://twitter.com/politicalshort/s...1276371099650#

    2:11 PM - 5 Jul 2017

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