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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    So the US government has had no contingency plans for homeland defence against a long predicted, possible threat? If true then someone needs to explain.
    Not to the Dr Strangelove era level of Civil Defense. To wit,
    http://www.mauinews.com/opinion/lett...ld-be-helpful/

    Commentary by LTG Dan Leaf (Ret) worth reading -

    Comprehensive missile defense for the homeland
    https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/...nd-commentary/

    Summation -

    Having the strategy is not enough. The government must have supporting policies including assigning operational responsibility and clearly defining engagement authority. Ballistic and cruise missile defense are two different challenges technically and tactically. The authorities for missile defense are divided piecemeal between multiple commands and agencies. If there was ever a situation where unity of command matters, this is it. In the event of a missile attack, there will not be time to decide who is going to decide.

    North Korea and terrorism are clear and immediate dangers, but the missile threat to the homeland must be a long-term concern countered with a comprehensive homeland missile defense plan from the Department of Defense and supported by the administration and lawmakers. This CMHD should be a key element of the follow-up to the new National Defense Strategy.
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    Citing North Korea's growing nuclear and ballistic missile threat, the Trump administration is moving to vastly expand the problem-plagued homeland missile defense system despite warnings that the planned upgrades may not succeed.
    Immediate plans call for building two $1-billion radar installations and adding 20 rocket interceptors to the 44 already deployed in underground silos at Ft. Greely in Alaska and at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.
    http://beta.latimes.com/politics/la-...222-story.html
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    Default Some historical perspectives from the last time...

    We were motivated to protect ourselves.

    Origins Of The Nike System
    http://alpha.fdu.edu/~bender/N-view.html

    Hitting a Bullet with a Bullet
    A History of Missile Defense
    http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a381863.pdf

    Interesting how the "NIMBY" kneejerk manifested. Thanks, DTIC!
    See also Chicago

    Detractors in Hyde Park
    “Two unmistakable attributes of Cold War culture were conformity and fear. There was a great deal of centrism, as it was understood at the time,” Allen says, “because it was still thought that Americans must ban together, regardless of their differences, to beat a common foe.”
    Still, there were citizens who raised concerns about the missile programs; some used the “not in my backyard” argument, calling the missile installations unsightly. Others questioned the need for the weapons.
    The Hyde Park area was a hotbed for protest on both fronts, as Chicago’s southernmost lakefront missile site was, after all, in that neighborhood's backyard. A 1955 Chicago Tribune article mentions that members of the Hyde Park-Kenwood Community Conference “vigorously protested” construction of a radar center on Promontory Point. That didn’t stop the Army from installing it, however.
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    NYC removes Nuclear shelter signs.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...cid=spartandhp
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    Rhetorically, *why* was there a false alarm?

    Residents of Hawaii were thrown into a panic Saturday morning after an emergency alert was sent warning of a ballistic missile threat. But officials minutes later tweeted that it was a false alarm.
    "NO missile threat to Hawaii," the state's Emergency Management Agency tweeted at 8:20 local time (1:20 ET).
    Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, tweeted: "This is a false alarm. There is no incoming missile to Hawaii."
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...icials-n837511
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    We now know why, and why it generated some drama, and there will be accountability and lessons studied based off this event. Maybe more importantly we need to double down on dealing with North Korea. Other states have the ability to strike us, but only KJU is foolish enough to openly declare he'll nuke us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    We now know why,
    You're far less cynical than I.
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