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    The Complete Guide to Tracking: Concealment, Night Movement, and All Forms of Pursuit Following Tracks, Trails and Signs

    I actually have owned that book for quite a while now, but with the start of the hunting season I like to refresh mentally some of the basics. It helps a great deal to make use of your rifle and sometimes also after the shot your own or that of others.

    Cheap and possibly even cheaper looking - not even basic pictures made it into the book - it is arguably the best manual I know and has helped me a great deal. A very well organized and structed book, it blends tracking with other fieldcraft important for a hunter and offers you an efficient path for learning and improving said skills.

    The track pursuit drill with it's 7 steps is a no-nonsense approach to follow a track and to stalk. It helped me to slow down, hone my stalking and to increase my overall awerness. If you know the area well you can stalk well and pick up tracks to get a sense of the game patters. We have a vastly different situation from Austria and Germany as well from a good deal of Italy, with the red deer being very hard to hunt.

    It goes very well with Practical Tracking and Mammal Tracks & Signs. Fantastic books. The informations on lynx, bears and wolves are becoming highly relevant for my region.

    German-speaking, European readers interested in local fauna should like Tierspuren erkennen & bestimmen or Tierspuren&co.
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    Default Finally read Duffer's Drift

    Thanks to a "lurker" I have finally read 'The Defence of Duffer's Drift' by E.D. Swinton; well a retired police officer takes his time to read classic texts for the military.

    Well worth a read, although I suspect many here already have. On a search I found it featured on nearly twenty threads, with Tom Odom especially citing it's value.

    There are numerous places to get a copy, here is one I found:http://regimentalrogue.tripod.com/du...fers_Drift.htm

    Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Def...ffer%27s_Drift
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    ...I too like to read multiple texts (are you Dyslexic Dave?)

    Anyway I'm the process of reading or have read the following...

    Brian ldiss, The Dark Light Years

    K. S. Friedman, Myths of the Free Market

    Frederick Forsythe, The Dogs of War. Much, much better than the film.

    L. I. Held, The Quirks of Human Anatomy (A real gem)


    G. Till, Seapower
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    D. J. Lonsdale, Alexander the Great: Lessons in Grand Strategy

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    Just finished: Blood, Steel, Myth: II SS Panzer Korps at Prochorowka

    and about to start

    Demolishing The Myth: The Battle of Prokhorovka

    The large scale of the fighting highlights the significant impact of what may seem minor variations in TTPs between german Army (Heer) units and Waffen SS as well as the cumulative impact of combat fatigue and the impact of airpower.

    On my Kindle I am currently getting through a very readable:

    History of the Peloponnesian War

    and have just finished:

    The Heights of Courage: A Tank Leader's War on the Golan

    More big war then small war at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rat View Post
    On my Kindle I am currently getting through a very readable:

    History of the Peloponnesian War
    Have you taken a stab at Herodotus? I don’t think anyone would go so far as to call The Histories readable—the historical geography in The Landmark edition helps, as does Carolyn Dewald’s Introduction in the Oxford World’s Classics edition—but that has a lot to do with the scope of his ambition. As the editor of The Landmark edition says, Thucydides was interested in politics and warfare, Herodotus was interested in everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ganulv View Post
    Have you taken a stab at Herodotus? I don’t think anyone would go so far as to call The Histories readable—the historical geography in The Landmark edition helps, as does Carolyn Dewald’s Introduction in the Oxford World’s Classics edition—but that has a lot to do with the scope of his ambition. As the editor of The Landmark edition says, Thucydides was interested in politics and warfare, Herodotus was interested in everything.
    I have taken a stab at Herodotus and intend to return again to him (a copy is also sitting on my Kindle).

    I studied a lot of Greek philosophy while at university, I am finding The Histories readable in comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rat View Post
    I have taken a stab at Herodotus and intend to return again to him (a copy is also sitting on my Kindle).
    One of my teachers told me that he grades with two things in mind: the scope of the student’s ambition and his/her success in fulfilling it. Herodotus scores well on both!

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rat View Post
    I studied a lot of Greek philosophy while at university, I am finding The Histories readable in comparison
    I have studied very little Greek philosophy, but just last night I was reading a short piece about ontology which makes reference to “competitive metaphysics in the Greek style.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rat View Post
    Just finished: Blood, Steel, Myth: II SS Panzer Korps at Prochorowka

    and about to start

    Demolishing The Myth: The Battle of Prokhorovka

    The large scale of the fighting highlights the significant impact of what may seem minor variations in TTPs between german Army (Heer) units and Waffen SS as well as the cumulative impact of combat fatigue and the impact of airpower.

    On my Kindle I am currently getting through a very readable:

    History of the Peloponnesian War

    and have just finished:

    The Heights of Courage: A Tank Leader's War on the Golan

    More big war then small war at the moment.
    Be curious as to your opinions about the two Kursk books. That's always been one of my favorite areas (Eastern Front).
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    That's always been one of my favorite areas (Eastern Front).
    As one of my professor used to write in the margins of my papers from time, “Are you sure that is what you mean to say?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by ganulv View Post
    As one of my professor used to write in the margins of my papers from time, “Are you sure that is what you mean to say?”
    Maybe.....
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
    T.R. Fehrenbach This Kind of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    Be curious as to your opinions about the two Kursk books. That's always been one of my favorite areas (Eastern Front).
    I'll drop a further line in due course.

    Blood Steel & Myth: Lavishly illustrated with maps and photographs and provides a day by day, almost hour by hour account of the battles of II SS Panzer Corps. Good statistics with sources and workings demonstrated (important when one considers the conflicting claims as to just who killed what with what at Prochorowrka). Some anecdotes of the soldiers' experiences.

    Demolishing the Myth: Not as well illustrated as 'Blood Steel and Myth' and while the mapping is adequate it could be better. The content though is superb, setting the context extremely well and taking pains to explore commanders' backgrounds and experience often down to brigade level well. Perhaps because I am less familiar with the workings of the Soviet Army, but I am finding this book engrossing, hugely educational and very enjoyable.

    Added by Moderator: See Post 31 for links to both books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rat View Post
    I'll drop a further line in due course.

    Blood Steel & Myth: Lavishly illustrated with maps and photographs and provides a day by day, almost hour by hour account of the battles of II SS Panzer Corps. Good statistics with sources and workings demonstrated (important when one considers the conflicting claims as to just who killed what with what at Prochorowrka). Some anecdotes of the soldiers' experiences.

    Demolishing the Myth: Not as well illustrated as 'Blood Steel and Myth' and while the mapping is adequate it could be better. The content though is superb, setting the context extremely well and taking pains to explore commanders' backgrounds and experience often down to brigade level well. Perhaps because I am less familiar with the workings of the Soviet Army, but I am finding this book engrossing, hugely educational and very enjoyable.

    Added by Moderator: See Post 31 for links to both books.
    Thanks for the initial thoughts!

    I've got this coming in the mail, which I'll update folks on if anyone's interested. SOG has always been an interest of mine, and this looks to be either good or hugely disappointing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Thanks to a "lurker" I have finally read 'The Defence of Duffer's Drift' by E.D. Swinton; well a retired police officer takes his time to read classic texts for the military.

    Well worth a read, although I suspect many here already have. On a search I found it featured on nearly twenty threads, with Tom Odom especially citing it's value.

    There are numerous places to get a copy, here is one I found:http://regimentalrogue.tripod.com/du...fers_Drift.htm

    Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Def...ffer%27s_Drift

    I finished that book quite recently. I really like the way it presents a problem and helps the reader to interact and to learn step by step. Needless to say that the specific pedagogic approach can be valuable in other areas as well.

    From a military point of view firepower certainly made it's weight felt already there and even earlier with all the logical ramifications.
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    Advice and Support: The Early Years of the U.S. Army in Vietnam 1941-1960 by Ronald H. Spector.

    The idea that the appropriate use of American power will provide a satisfactory outcome to even the most intractable problem in the Third World is far from a novel one. It was succinctly, if inelegantly, expressed in the slogan which one saw everywhere in Vietnam, “Once we have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.” The work presented here suggests a fundamentally different conclusion, but one which was also embodied in an expression commonly heard in Vietnam, “You can’t make somethin’ out of nothin’.”

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    Added to this propensity to make something out of nothing was an American ignorance of Vietnamese history and society so massive and all-encompassing that two decades of federally-funded fellowships, crash language programs, television specials and campus teach-ins made hardly a dent. In Chapter 1 of the present work I attempt to show how infrequent and tenuous were American contacts with Vietnam before 1945 and what little knowledge of IndoChina there was in the U.S. even among specialists. U.S. contacts with Japan and China, however distorted by mutual suspicion, ignorance and prejudice, were rich and varied in comparison to those with Southeast Asia. (from the preface to the 1985 edition)
    Advice and Support: The Early Years of the U.S. Army in Vietnam 1941-1960 - amazon



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    Default Slim book on Dien Bien Phu

    A "lurker" lent me a slim AUSA book, 'Dien Bien Phu: The Epic Battle America Forgot' by Howard E. Simpson. It is a long time since I read on the French Indo-China war, notably Bernard Fall in 'Street Without Joy'. Originally published in 1994 and my edition 2005:http://www.amazon.com/Dien-Bien-Phu-...America+Forgot

    Simpson writes well, although the editor missed some strange spellings and grammar which jarred an easy read. He has interviewed on both sides, including General Giap and clearly has admiration for the stoicism of the French (including a good number of non-French nationals and local tribesmen). Some new information was found; the UK & US official visits, the extent of US civilian pilots flying most of the transports and the use of quad .50 cal. machine guns.

    I still marvel at those who volunteered to parachute in the last days, many with just a few days training:
    800 French, 450 Legionnaires, 400 North Africans & Africans and 150 Vietnamese - only 681 jumped in.
    Finally the author was there, as a diplomat, before the siege began.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I still marvel at those who volunteered to parachute in the last days, many with just a few days training:
    I read Peter G. MacDonald’s biography of Giap earlier in the year. Didn’t that jump land all of them in POW camps (and from to their graves for many of them)?
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    Ganulv asked:
    Didn’t that jump land all of them in POW camps (and from to their graves for many of them)?
    Simpson refers to:
    11,000 French Union able-bodied and wounded being captured, approximately 3,300 were returned.
    The possible factors that caused their motivation is mentioned, multi-faceted yes and now too late to research properly. No doubt other examples in military history exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ganulv View Post
    I read Peter G. MacDonald’s biography of Giap earlier in the year. Didn’t that jump land all of them in POW camps (and from to their graves for many of them)?
    That is what David marveled at, me too. They knew what the odds and they went anyway.

    Maybe the motivation was what I read motivates most things like that, they can't stand to leave their mates unaided.
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