Quote Originally Posted by goesh View Post
Though the in-house ramifications of the General's Report will reverberate for some time and will fill the politician's plate for a long time, it essentially rings hollow and empty in the lives of many, many Americans - more than many here would think or more than many here might care to really know about. We the People expect you to police yourselves. However, if you think the violation of your sense of personal honor, integrity, professionalism and discipline over detainees being leashed, stacked, made to stand on boxes, having panties put on their heads and being barked at by dogs is concordantly endorsed by some solid, unified block of civilians, you are mistaken. You are raining on your own parade and looking down from on high in your bunkers and turrets, not unlike the proverbial ivory tower.

Why do you suppose Abu Ghraib continues to be on your plate and the politician's plate but not ours? Any time spent in any courthouse across the nation will show large swatches of people dissatisfied with the application of American Justice. It's easy to hear the bitching over criminals released on technicalities or coddled with full medical care over violence against citizens when the victims have no similiar accord and recompense from their government. It's easy to see violent criminals released after a few years served in prison. It's easy to see parole violations that result in more harm to citizens. It's easy to hear the clamour for the death penalty and real hard time for ciminals. And we're supposed to be upset and wring our hands over some freakin' Iraqi being barked at by a dog and having a pair of women's underwear put on his head and being roughed up? This is the BS that erodes trust in the military, not tactical mistakes, collateral damage, inefficiency and over-priced goods and services. There is nothing more despicable than a politician wearing the disguise of a uniform. We expected you to punish those you felt needed punishing over the violation of military law, nothing more, nothing less but frankly we are not listening to the pontification that has followed.
You realize there were people tortured to death at Abu Ghraib right?