Sanctuary or Ungoverned Spaces:identification, symptoms and responses

[Ken White]

To paraphrase Bob's World who said:

"Something is not failed simply becuase it operates differently than us, nor is it failed if it rejects attempts to change forced upon it so that it would be like us."

Remember it doesn't have to be done the way you'd like to be okay...

We are not failed or even flailing, much less struggling for national survival -- no matter how bad the Politicians screw it up and they are sure doing their usual good job of that -- as for Communism; Guvmint Motors (GM) and the would be NSHSS (National Socialist Health System on Steroids) reject your aspersion.

Sheesh, lighten up, Folks.

P.S.

Bob, I agree with most of your points re: other nations -- and that 'failed state' is a bad and misleading term. One I think is too often used by various activist types, right and left, to promote generally dippy and flawed agendas of all sorts -- and of which little real good comes; most particularly to the 'failed state' in question...

And rarely to he who 'helps.'

[IntelTrooper]

-- as for Communism; Guvmint Motors (GM) and the would be NSHSS (National Socialist Health System on Steroids) reject your aspersion.

Will the trains run on time, at least?

[Ken White]

regardless of profitability or logic provided your Congressional delegation has enough clout. Isn't that enough? Why this carping over trivia like 'on time?' Tch, tch...

[IntelTrooper]

regardless of profitability or logic provided your Congressional delegation has enough clout. Isn't that enough? Why this carping over trivia like 'on time?' Tch, tch...

Ah, absolutely true. And we wouldn't see them for 8 to 12 weeks, then suddenly every previously scheduled train would arrive at once.

But, sorry, back to the topic...

[Ken White]

at the time and the northern route got twice daily service except for Sunday while you had to wait for every other Sunday that UP swapped off with Santa Fe to get all your trains...

Uh, right. What WAS the topic? Ah, yes, Foiled States.

I still agree with Bob's World. Not at all sure that States who do not do it our way are necessarily failed, nor do I think we (the West in general) have either an obligation or even a right to interfere as often as we do. I know that most of the West's interventions have done harm as well as little good -- that's a matter of record. Bigotry is not expressed only by poor treatment or verbiage...

[slapout9]

Not at all sure that States who do not do it our way are necessarily failed, nor do I think we (the West in general) have either an obligation or even a right to interfere as often as we do. I know that most of the West's interventions have done harm as well as little good -- that's a matter of record. Bigotry is not expressed only by poor treatment or verbiage...

See it's that moral thing again

[Ken White]

no moral BS about it.