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    Default Anthropology and the Military - on at 11am EST October 10, 2007

    The dianne rehm show is doing a program on anthropologists and the military (10:00 a.m. EST). WAMU in Washington, D.C. you can get it on itunes, and i assume from their website also. they take comments by phone and email--see website for particulars, wamu.org. NB: I have heard conflicting times, it may also be at 10am. Definitely 10 am.

    The U.S. military is now sending teams of anthropologists and social scientists out to assist all combat brigades in Iraq and Afghanistan. The effort has reportedly helped troops improve relations with local populations and avert casualties, while raising a hearty debate among anthropologists over the ethical boundaries of their profession. A look at the so-called Human Terrain Teams and larger questions of how the military is adapting to new expectations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and beyond. Guests

    Montgomery McFate, senior social science adviser with the U.S. Army's Human Terrain System

    David Price, associate professor of anthropology and sociology at St. Martin's University; author of the forthcoming book, "Anthropological Intelligence: The Deployment and Neglect of American Anthropology in the Second World War."

    Col. John Agoglia, director, U.S. Army Peacekeeping and Stability Operations Institute

    Lt. Col. Edward Villacres, military leader of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division Human Terrain Team

    David Rohde, reporter, New York Times

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    Hi Marc !

    Seems like the same program here, but as you pointed out, perhaps not exactly at 10 !

    Hmmm, what will those SWC folks be doing this morning

    Would love to tune in when a Canuck gets out of hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    Hi Marc !

    Seems like the same program here, but as you pointed out, perhaps not exactly at 10 !

    Hmmm, what will those SWC folks be doing this morning

    Would love to tune in when a Canuck gets out of hand
    Hey Stan,

    Definitely looks like David Price is getting busy on the radio today!
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    A recent letter to the NYT has sparked more discussion at SavageMinds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marct View Post
    A recent letter to the NYT has sparked more discussion at SavageMinds.

    Marc
    Marc, I'm stuck wondering which would make a better campaign slogan at this point.

    Savage Minds kinda has a nice ring to it, and might scare off some of those pesky terrorists - sigh -

    However, Human Terrain is more sorta in fashion.

    One comment seems appropriate now. Hal writes:

    This sounds pretty simplistic and self-centered to me. If you can’t establish who you are and what you’re are doing during fieldwork I doubt the media or the US military is to blame. The embedded anthropologists maintain that they are decreasing casualties. If there is any truth in that allegation I think that trumps your inconvenience in data gathering. The issue of informed consent is more important. How does that measure up against dead civilians?
    Literally translated in the Amurican Army lingo...Get off your butt and do something...and stop whining

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    Hey Stan,

    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    One comment seems appropriate now. Hal writes:

    This sounds pretty simplistic and self-centered to me. If you can’t establish who you are and what you’re are doing during fieldwork I doubt the media or the US military is to blame. The embedded anthropologists maintain that they are decreasing casualties. If there is any truth in that allegation I think that trumps your inconvenience in data gathering. The issue of informed consent is more important. How does that measure up against dead civilians?
    Literally translated in the Amurican Army lingo...Get off your butt and do something...and stop whining
    You know, last week was debating what paper I would write for my current class (I always write one to give them an idea of what the process is like for me). Several happenings in the last 5 days have now fixed the topic: I'm doing an evolutionary (neo-Darwinian) analysis of the construction of professional codes of ethics using the current Anthropology debates as the case study .

    A lot of it goes back to many of the discussions we have had here, but I'm trying to get a handle on exactly what processes are operating at the level of the institution. Your translation really highlights why I think it is imperative to get such a model together, and ties in with all sorts of other threads we've talked about (e.g. officer retention, professional military education, etc.).

    Anyway, that being said, I have to run off to vote - it's election day in Ontario.

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