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    If China's philosophy is to get rid of its detractors (domestic) by hook or by crook i.e. without any scruples or tenets of law, then why the razzmatazz being trotted out to make one to believe that China is a nation working overtime towards global harmony and peace.

    Would they not be equally unscrupulous and thus, not taken at face value?
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    Default An established fact ...

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    Therefore, the world belongs to China!
    since 2002, when Gavin Menzies published "1421" (Amazon link, Menzies Wiki and a less charitable analysis).

    Re: BBC World Map (Link1 and Link2 - of many).

    As my favorite old judge once said: "Some humor has to be injected into these proceedings; otherwise, they become too serious."

    Ya gotta love those Hans if you're an Indian (of either kind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    If China's philosophy is to get rid of its detractors (domestic) by hook or by crook i.e. without any scruples or tenets of law, then why the razzmatazz being trotted out to make one to believe that China is a nation working overtime towards global harmony and peace.

    Would they not be equally unscrupulous and thus, not taken at face value?
    All nations claim to be working toward global harmony and peace, even those who whack their detractors (though those accused of corruption in China are not necessarily "detractors", often just those who wound up on the wrong side of internecine power struggles) and those who invade countries whose governments they dislike.
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    China's South Sea Claims: Fact or Fiction?


    http://www.cpamedia.com/politics/chi...th_sea_claims/

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    I think it's probably a fact that the earliest existing historical records of the various shoals and islands in the SCS are Chinese. Whether or not that constitutes a valid claim of ownership, or whether it's more valid than, say, claims based on geographical proximity (based on UNCLOS recognition of exclusive economic zones, among other things), is a matter of opinion and to some extent of international law, not sure it's possible to say that's a question of fact or fiction.

    As a matter of historical precedent, such things have belonged to whoever can take and hold them.
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    Lots of claims for South Atlantic and South Indian Ocean islands (Crozet, for example) would change owners if old claims of discoverers never given up in a treaty would be overruled by some convention that says proximity counts more.

    Not going to happen.

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    China when in an adverse situation states the treaties were unequal.

    But when it suits them, the maps and treaties are valid!

    Interesting is this Wiki summary

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal_treaty

    Tibet was also an 'unequal treaty'!

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