I'm not going to continue quibbling with you - so you "win".

From your About Me, I notice two things among your creds: "Law Degree" and "contrarian". That is familar territory for me. I run into a lot of nitpicking lawyers; but with them, I have the option of saying: "You brief it and file it. I'll brief it and file it. Let the judge decide it." That's not an option here.

So, I'll forego any response to your assertions about my "position" re: the two boxers and the doctor-patient. As Sam says, the discussion has moved off topic and a "contrarian discourse" would not be helpful.

Cheers

Mike