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    Thought I might start a thread on targeting since it is so critical. To start here is an EBO planning sheet pretty interesting and I don't know how many have this.



    http://www.dtic.mil/jointvision/idea...g_template.xls

    It opens as a spread sheet and are controlled from the bottom, 3 sheets total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    Thought I might start a thread on targeting since it is so critical. To start here is an EBO planning sheet pretty interesting and I don't know how many have this.

    http://www.dtic.mil/jointvision/idea...g_template.xls

    It opens as a spread sheet and are controlled from the bottom, 3 sheets total.
    Thanks slap! I've skimmed 'er and saved 'er - interesting the Marine doctrinal ref's. Gotta say...this looks pretty comprehensive.

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    Hi Norfolk, IMO it works even better if you use the Army concept of CARVER for evaluating targets.

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    Hey Slap !
    Interesting, they list Humanitarian Demining under Health and Basic Services. Under NATO and the EU, we normally fall under Security.

    Thanks for the chart ! Regards, Stan



    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    Thought I might start a thread on targeting since it is so critical. To start here is an EBO planning sheet pretty interesting and I don't know how many have this.



    http://www.dtic.mil/jointvision/idea...g_template.xls

    It opens as a spread sheet and are controlled from the bottom, 3 sheets total.

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    Here is another point of view with a Navy influence.



    http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a.../freniere.html

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    The following may usefully inform this discussion

    http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/memoranda/memo89.en.pdf

    Personally I think EBO is the worst type of rubbish, so I am very predisposed to Ron Tira's thinking.
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    I think it was tequila that found this paper a while back and posted it for the SWC. I read it back then and thought it was an excellent paper. Particularly the name Stand Off Firepower Operations because that is what EBO has become as opposed to what it was originally trying to be. The paper is well worth the read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    I think it was tequila that found this paper a while back and posted it for the SWC. I read it back then and thought it was an excellent paper. Particularly the name Stand Off Firepower Operations because that is what EBO has become as opposed to what it was originally trying to be. The paper is well worth the read.
    With my admittedly very limited grasp of Aerial Warfare in general and Campaign design and planning in particular, I nevertheless see great merit in EBO as a whole, applied judiciously. Designing Aerial Bombardment Campaigns around Systems of directly-related targets rather than merely indirectly- or unrelated individual targets is at least as effective, and much more efficient, than the old way of doing things - where applicable. Systems Targeting - amongst other things - in EBO is definitely an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    The following may usefully inform this discussion

    http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/memoranda/memo89.en.pdf

    Personally I think EBO is the worst type of rubbish, so I am very predisposed to Ron Tira's thinking.
    William

    that depends on the goal and the level of implementation. We have used effects based thinking here for the past 5 years as a way of synchronizing lethal and non-lethal means in the full spectrum fight. thet effects process is buit into the targeting cycle as part of concurrent operations and future planning. It works.

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Odom View Post
    William

    that depends on the goal and the level of implementation. We have used effects based thinking here for the past 5 years as a way of synchronizing lethal and non-lethal means in the full spectrum fight. thet effects process is buit into the targeting cycle as part of concurrent operations and future planning. It works.

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    OK, I'm listening. Examples? How would the IDF have employed the techniques you describe against the Hezbollah?

    ...and targeting cycle? Just point me at the doctrine papers.
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    Default The Targeting Process: D3A and F3EAD

    The Targeting Process: D3A and F3EAD

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    The Targeting Process: D3A and F3EAD
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    Since October 2001, combat operations in the Afghanistan Theater of Operations have presented the U.S. Army with constant evolution of complex situations that have routinely highlighted shortfalls in current doctrinal solutions. At every echelon, the Army has adapted to the complex situations within the Operational Environment (OE) by revising doctrine to reflect the adaptive responses to the ever-evolving spectrum of threats. The spectrum of threats within the operational environment range from smaller, lower-technology opponents using more adaptive, asymmetric methods to larger, modernized forces able to engage deployed U.S. forces in more conventional, symmetrical ways. In some possible conflicts (or in multiple, concurrent conflicts), a combination of these types of threats could be especially problematic to a one-dimensional, all inclusive Targeting Process.

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    CW4 Jimmy Gomez is currently the Course Manager and Senior Instructor for the Field Artillery Warrant Officer Instruction Branch at Fires Center of Excellence, Fort Sill, Oklahoma. He served with the 25th Infantry Division Staff in Afghanistan 2004-2005 and in Iraq 2006-2007.



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    Default F3EAD: Ops/Intel Fusion “Feeds” The SOF Targeting Process

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    Default Targeting Challenges in the Advising Environment

    Targeting Challenges in the Advising Environment

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    Default Adding the Warrant to Your Quiver: Ten Tenets of Warrant Based Targeting

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    Thanks to a SWJ Tweet here is a surprising US document now in the public domain, with my emphasis:
    Last week without fanfare, a 230-page military document (PDF) appeared in the public domain. The document, authored in May 2016, is a comprehensive list of rules, standards, and definitions governing the heart of what the military does: picking targets, and making sure those targets are valid and within the bounds of the laws of war. The Pentagon isn’t exactly sure how the document ended up online.
    Link:http://www.popsci.com/pentagon-targe...eleased-online

    IIRC we have debated the RoE, but just where was hard to identify - hence being posted here. Lawfare I know has spent time on this subject.
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