Targeting

[William F. Owen]

William

that depends on the goal and the level of implementation. We have used effects based thinking here for the past 5 years as a way of synchronizing lethal and non-lethal means in the full spectrum fight. thet effects process is buit into the targeting cycle as part of concurrent operations and future planning. It works.

Tom

OK, I'm listening. Examples? How would the IDF have employed the techniques you describe against the Hezbollah?

...and targeting cycle? Just point me at the doctrine papers.

[Tom Odom]

If you have access you may see relevant studies at the CALL gateway. That is the best I can offer.

IDF operations against Hizballah had a host of problems, not all of which were due to fixation on effects based operations as applied through aerial means.

Many of the problems on the ground were due to poor warfighting skills--some say due to degradation brought about by fixation on operations on the West Bank and Gaza. That may be partially the case; some of the problems sounded very much like what I saw in southern Lebanon in 1987 and harken back to similar issues dating back to the 56, 67, and 73 Wars.

best

Tom

[William F. Owen]

Is this the targeting cycle?

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp.../3-56_1ch4.htm

Isn't that pure EBO? How is effects based thinking different from EBO? Really, I'm here to learn.

[slapout9]

Wilf, not at all. Targeting is just one step in the EBO process, however it is the one that people usually jump to. This leads to the targeting only mentality which is where you get the everything is a target so let's just blow it up type thinking (Your IDF Paper Example) which can be a disaster. There is a paper from Hurricane Katrina I am goinng to post (when I can find it) about how EBO was used in the Military response to Hurricane Katrina. Later Slap