"MoveOn" to 5GW?

[Ratzel]

When I decided to use left-wing subversion as an example of 5GW, I made the assumption that most of the good folks who post here shared some common premises and historical understandings. I was wrong of course, and when I seen people talking of "McCarthyism" I had given up. I figured that there was no reason to go any further just as there would be no reason to teach calculus to those who hadn't learned the multiplication tables.

I then had a change of heart, as I could not accept the idea of otherwise well informed and objective thinkers being totally in the dark of this historical reality. It took me a while to decide how I would prepare for this lesson, but I decided on an interview with an ex-KGB officer. I think you'll find this interview to be informative and entertaining, which are two important aspects of learning new subjects.

I hope that by the end of the 3 part interview, you'll at least have some appreciation of what I'm talking about. I am familiar with the culture of this forum and will not be making a habit of discussing such things in the future.

Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKwc...eature=related

Particurally related to 5GW is in 2/3 when he speaks of the 4 steps of subverting the nation. If you can't bring yourself to watch it all, at least watch 2/3 and think of this in terms of 5GW.

[MattC86]

I'm going to do as Ken asks and simply "Move On," horrific pun sadly intended. We don't agree on this, we're not going to agree on this, so probably best for all concerned to find greener pastures.

Matt

[Ken White]

and I have no doubt there are a number of routine posters here who agree with you as well as a possibly similar number who do not. While your intentions were pure, the thread warped off, fairly predictably, into the political rather than on the 5GW effect.

There are other places on the internet for the firmly ideological or political discussion. Your decision to avoid such efforts in the future is wise and appreciated. It isn't possible to discuss warfare without some political elements intruding, no question -- but it is possible to do that without taking an overt political position and generating a lot of froth and little of practical substance pertinent to this Forum which concentrates on the practical aspects of warfighting.

Thanks to all -- and thanks, MattC.

[Ratzel]

and I have no doubt there are a number of routine posters here who agree with you as well as a possibly similar number who do not. While your intentions were pure, the thread warped off, fairly predictably, into the political rather than on the 5GW effect.

There are other places on the internet for the firmly ideological or political discussion. Your decision to avoid such efforts in the future is wise and appreciated. It isn't possible to discuss warfare without some political elements intruding, no question -- but it is possible to do that without taking an overt political position and generating a lot of froth and little of practical substance pertinent to this Forum which concentrates on the practical aspects of warfighting.

Thanks to all -- and thanks, MattC.

You weren't telling anyone to "drop it" while they were having fun at my expense. Why the change? I even suggested that we erase the thread when it was 10 posts old. I was very willing to "drop it" but everyone was having too much fun. So all I did by posting this interview was attempt to show the gallery that left-wing subversion of the West was a very real thing. And by doing so, possibly even getting the folks at this thread to think about my original inference. So yes, I'll "drop it" and keep to apolitical subjects only.

[Ken White]

If you noticed, I was among the number having fun at your expense and I think if you review the thread, you'll discover that the so called fun at your expense was a light hearted way to suggest you might want to back off. I only interfered and got direct when the thread chatter turned overtly political. Please note the timing of that post of mine and that it was not addressed at you.

You chose not to heed so you, specifically, got a second suggestion to chill. I won't repeat the apolitical tone desired here mantra, you can reread that.

As I said, this is three. Time to move on.

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