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    Default Agree with that.

    A lot of the fluff stories about refusal to hire contain only one side of the story. If, for example, the 'girl friend' has some strange ties the potential hiree is not aware of -- or discounts, said hiree is going to object. He may or may not be right but the hiring agency, correctly, is not going to publicly justify their decision.

    Some of the complaints are legitimate, any bureaucracy will make errors of excessive caution but mostly there's a pretty good degree of validity in their refusal to hire. Congress has a part in this. No matter how well people are checked, the occasional bad apple will slip through and even really good guys can turn for one reason or another. Every time that occurs, Congress, in its need to be seen to be doing something will insert a hooker to prevent such an error in an appropriation bill and then the Agencies are bound by it, right or wrong.

    They need people and they know it. Generally the system works.

    Speaking of Stan, haven't heard much from him lately. Wonder what he's up to, could be work, could be again lolling on the beach on some Island...

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    I would say that a minor ding that is unrevealed by the applicant is automatically a major disqualifier, while there are some people with the same "ding" that are able to get in, because of a combination of forthrightness and agency need for their qualifications.

    Having said that, I know of at least two people who are working in sensitive positions that shouldn't be there. They are, in my estimation, both unacceptable security risks, and I've done my level best to get them dismissed, but to no avail.

    "Fairness" is not a consideration for hiring for Intelligence Agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    "Fairness" is not a consideration for hiring for Intelligence Agencies.
    Amen!

    Perhaps this should be more of the idea in the hiring/appointment in certain upper level positions. LOL!

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    WP, 29 Oct 08: Change Expands Eligibility for Intelligence Hires
    Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell has taken steps to make it easier for U.S. intelligence agencies to recruit first-generation Americans with foreign relatives.

    In an Oct. 1 directive, McConnell removed a requirement restricting access to "sensitive compartmented information," the highest level of classified information, to employees whose family members or close associates were U.S. citizens. In the past, there had to be a formal waiver of the citizenship requirement and a "compelling need" to hire people who did not meet the condition.....

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    Default From across the water: how SIS recruits?

    The UK overseas intelligence agency, SIS (formerly known as MI6), is marking it's first century and there is this gem or "spin" on how it recruits: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-join-MI6.html

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    interesting bit of agitprop. I had known for some time that one had to have two kills to become a "00" but I didn't know much about the the rest of the recruiting process.

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    Default It seems inevitable

    That the DOD will follow the lead of State, CIA, and NSA with regard to their ability to overlook certain things. Also with the pressure on the OPM to conduct faster initial and other clearance investigations it is more likely that more individuals will gain clearance. Or the oppposite could happen with less people even being considered for clearance, as cited earlier in the thread.
    Just from cursory reading it seems that the pressure on OPM to meet timelines is intense. Something that I do not necessarily agree with. The article is here, and there is a link to the opm site.

    http://www.federaldaily.com/federald...3/FD030308.htm

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