Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Lessons from the Private Sector and Coast Guard During Katrina

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Rancho La Espada, Blanchard, OK
    Posts
    1,065

    Default Factual and conceptual errors

    This article is simply replete with factual and conceptual errors. Most glaring is the author's assertion that the USCG was moved under DHS in the wake of Katrina. Wrong! It was moved from DOT under the terms of the Homeland Security Act of 2002.

    Conceptually, the author argues that over centralization was the cause of failure in the Federal response. The fact is that by law the Federal response is in support of the state and local response. What the author never addresses is the highly successful response to Katrina by Mississippi with generally excellent support from the Federal agencies. Leadership was exercised by gov Haley Barbour in contrast to the lack of leadership shown by the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans. Indeed, had it not been for the LA Adjutant General's contacts the senior Army general would never have been sent by Northcom and effective coordination would not have been established with Admiral Thad Allen of the USCG to get some degree of organization out of the chaos.

    Most commentary on FEMA has been that it was seriously underfunded by DHS and generally neglected in the wake of 9/11 and DHS' emphasis on counterterrorism. That, however, is not a problem inherent in FEMA's being housed within DHS. Again, it is a problem of leadership as well as problem definition and focus.

    Finally, I will reiterate a point that I have made on other threads. Reorganization will not, of itself, fix a problem. Reorganization can only make fixing problems easier or harder. Creating DHS made addressing some problems easier and others harder. The problem DHS faces is the one DOD faced when it was established in 1947 but it is in spades. Where DOD took 3 big agencies with relatively compatible cultures and put them under one roof, DHS has taken 22 agencies with wildly divergent cultures and is trying to bring them together. We need to remember that it took DOD 40 years until Goldwater-Nichols (1986) to simply get the legislation right and another 10 years to internalize the required cultural changes. One can reasonably hope that DHS will learn some of the lessons of DOD and not take 40 to 50 years to get it right.

    Cheers

    JohnT

  2. #2
    Council Member slapout9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    4,818

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by John T. Fishel View Post
    This article is simply replete with factual and conceptual errors. Most glaring is the author's assertion that the USCG was moved under DHS in the wake of Katrina. Wrong! It was moved from DOT under the terms of the Homeland Security Act of 2002.

    Cheers

    JohnT
    Great point John and from it's creation one of the main purposes of the Coast Guard was Rum Runner Interdiction who avoided taxes hence the reason it was placed under the Treasury. They have a long history of counter smuggling operations and are really one of the most under appreciated services we have.

    Also Alabama and Mississippi have had a mutual aid pact for years which came in very handy down by the coastline. MI was in a better position to help in some areas AL was better positioned in others and it worked very well.

    Even though I lived just outside Montgomery the effects of Katrina were powerful( No power in Slapout for almost a week,warm beer hot days) and it taught many lessons that we are still learning,or I hope we learn. At the time 80% of the Al. Guards vehicles (but not personnel) were over there and everywhere but in Al. there was some teeth gnashing over that. And I ain't even gonna get into the Law Enforcement issues that came out of this.

  3. #3
    Council Member Ken White's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    8,060

    Default Amen to that, Slapout...

    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    ...
    ...And I ain't even gonna get into the Law Enforcement issues that came out of this.
    Our Sheriff sent a crew over and they came back with horror stories about NOPD. Youngest son's Brother in Law went down from GA as Firefighter/Paramedic and he has a few as well and some scathing commentary on the LAArNG...

    The one big similarity between Andrew and Katrina was the reluctance of the Governors from one party to ask the President from another party for help. In Andrew, Governor Chiles refused for three days to ask for Federal Assistance; the only thing that got him off the dime was the then Adjutant General of the Florida Guard threatening to resign and go public with why. IMO, for politicians to politicize a disaster is criminal.

    That doesn't even address the blithering stupidity and culpability of all the mainstream media in reporting both Hurricanes -- but Katrina was a textbook example of how not to do it...

  4. #4
    Council Member davidbfpo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    13,366

    Default The Katrina Disaster and the Politics of Disavowal

    Thread re-opened after a "lurker" recommended this 2015 article 'The Katrina Disaster and the Politics of Disavowal' by an academic from New Orleans:http://www.newclearvision.com/2015/0...nst-resilence/

    This figure alone suggests the recovery has not happened:
    In fact, as a recent report shows, “New Orleans is now at about 78 percent of its population before the storm” and the recent growth rate has been 1.4%.Aggregating the population with surrounding parishes is a transparent ploy to confuse the public. Many have not come back to New Orleans because of lack of opportunities here and because the dominant model of development has created obstacles to their return. To make them disappear through fake statistics is an outrage. Landrieu obviously didn’t grasp the ludicrous but painful irony of calling the post-Katrina era, in which almost a quarter of the population did not return, “the best come-back story” in U.S. history!
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 08-06-2016 at 09:27 PM. Reason: 8,326v
    davidbfpo

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •