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    Unless someone here has beaten me to the punch, I'm calling my publisher right away to get the rights to this great fictional story.

    Besides what others have said, does Lind really think we'd sit idly by while Iran preps and masses divisions at the border? Aparrently we are incapable of doing all the things to Iran that Lind believes Iran is capable of doing to us.

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    Arrow The funniest thing about this whole deal

    that in reality they would probably have their hands more than full trying to deal with an constantly beefed up IA, IP who would probably much prefer larger conflict to the COIN ops their currently having to perform. And thats assuming some of the militia wouldn't join in AGAINST IRAN. There are so many ways this could go so much differently than what he states I'm not really sure why he bothered.
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    If anything was going to happen Iran would infiltrate KBR and electrocute our soldiers while they were showering or poison their drinking water. Nyah. Never happen though that were be more likened to something like fourth generation warfare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selil View Post
    If anything was going to happen Iran would infiltrate KBR and electrocute our soldiers while they were showering or poison their drinking water. Nyah. Never happen though that were be more likened to something like fourth generation warfare.
    But they'd still git beat
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    Iran sends two to four regular army armor and mech divisions across the border. Their objective is to pocket American forces in and around Baghdad

    How? This just ignores all of the teaching of any school of operational analysis I am aware of.

    I submit, as the Manoeuvre Warfare Handbook and 4GW concept were all based on poor history, this is hypothesis is based on a poor understanding of modern operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    Iran sends two to four regular army armor and mech divisions across the border. Their objective is to pocket American forces in and around Baghdad

    How? This just ignores all of the teaching of any school of operational analysis I am aware of.

    I submit, as the Manoeuvre Warfare Handbook and 4GW concept were all based on poor history, this is hypothesis is based on a poor understanding of modern operations.

    However, never underestimate the propensity for so-called "military theorists" to keep pressing the alarm bell in order to stay in view.
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    I still think that, in the early days, Lind was a necessary component who shook some things up. I'm also not as inclined as some to discard maneuver warfare theories out of hand. They have their place, but like most ideas they were carried into areas that they were not suite for, and Lind bears some responsibility for that. He's clearly outlived his usefulness.

    All Lind is doing is rehashing the Stalingrad scenario. Period.
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