Bill Lind's Nightmare Scenario

**Ron Humphrey** · 03-25-2008

Originally Posted by Granite_State

http://www.d-n-i.net/dni/2008/03/25/...ndra/#more-152

I find this pretty implausible, and I know a lot of folks on here are not Lind fans, but does anyone think this could actually happen?

And despite it's presentation the reason it wouldn't happen that way is exactly due to those considerations (and others).

Doesn't mean change ain't a comin but maybe just not in the ways people like to argue about

**Jedburgh** · 03-25-2008

....As I have warned before, every American ground unit in Iraq needs its own plan to get itself out of the country using only its own resources and whatever it can scrounge locally. Retreat to the north, through Kurdistan into Turkey, will be the only alternative open to most U.S. Army units, other than ending up in an Iranian POW camp.....

He needs to put away the crack pipe and get himself into rehab.

So, not that I was a fan of their stuff before, but is this an indicator that DNI is now dropping to the credibility level of WND and NEIN?

**Danny** · 03-25-2008

I wish I had time to rewrite Lind's whole scenario, but this will do:

"Iran sends two to four mech divisions across the border, and to their surprise are awaited by so many U.S. aircraft monitoring, bombing and firing cannon at their slow, lumbering vehicles that the roads become another "highway of death," with Iranian dead and vehicles littering roads for miles, great columns of smoke filling the skies, Iranian students protesting in the capital city, and the government in virtual collapse ..."

**Germ** · 03-26-2008

Originally Posted by Danny

I wish I had time to rewrite Lind's whole scenario, but this will do:

"Iran sends two to four mech divisions across the border, and to their surprise are awaited by so many U.S. aircraft monitoring, bombing and firing cannon at their slow, lumbering vehicles that the roads become another "highway of death," with Iranian dead and vehicles littering roads for miles, great columns of smoke filling the skies, Iranian students protesting in the capital city, and the government in virtual collapse ..."

Given that US forces already struck targets in Iran, ISR assets would surely be monitoring Iranian mech units. They would be targeted by an appropriate weapons system immediately after massing for road movement. The Hog pilots will be fighting for a chance to strafe the few remaining hubcaps that roll to the Iraqi border.

**Jedburgh** · 03-26-2008

Originally Posted by Germ

....ISR assets would surely be monitoring Iranian mech units. They would be targeted by an appropriate weapons system immediately after massing for road movement. The Hog pilots will be fighting for a chance to strafe the few remaining hubcaps that roll to the Iraqi border.

I can't believe you guys are giving Lind's tripe the amount of consideration in rebuttal that's been posted here. Look at Khafji in the early phase of Desert Storm. Consider the significant improvements across the spectrum in our capabilities since then - then consider that current Iranian mech/armor capabilities are no better than the Iraqi army at that time. If that. Game over.

Certain figures in the Iranian govt may talk smack, but they will never confront us head-on. There are other options, if it comes down to brass tacks. To paraphrase Monty Python's Village Idiot, they may be idiots, but they're not fools.