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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamG View Post
    It'd be interesting to see an uncensored account of Zim's participation in the Pan-African War over in the DRC.
    Try this one: Great Lakes Conflagration.

    It's based on interviews with 5-6 ZDF vets of that war, three Rwandans and few other participants - and is the military history of that conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Try this one: Great Lakes Conflagration.

    It's based on interviews with 5-6 ZDF vets of that war, three Rwandans and few other participants - and is the military history of that conflict.
    Does your book discuss the death toll of the Second Congo War?

    What are your thoughts on the debate over estimates of the toll, which seems to range from less than one million, to over five million.

    See here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/georg..._b_433552.html

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    I tend to 'touch' such topics, rather generally, but never go 'in-depth' in regards of them - except there is something like 'solid' data. In the case of this war, there was none I would have known as of that time that book was written (which was back in period 2000-2009; mind, it was published 'only' in 2013).

    What this book does mention is the ZDF's statistics for certain battles fought in the DRC. For example, the kill-to-loss ratio during the battle of N'Djili was 27:1 (in favour of Zimbabweans).

    BTW, this didn't change much for the rest of the war, no matter what calamities the ZDF went through there.

    EDIT: That all said, I tend to lean towards those who say the death toll in the II DRC War was much higher than during the Rwandan Civil War (including the Rwandan Genocide of 1994) - and primarily caused by Rwanda. For better understanding of 'how comes' (at least in regards of military affairs), it would be useful for any interested reader to go through 'slightly more'. Namely, thanks to efforts of Adrien Fontanellaz (a Swiss researcher with special skill in extracting most obscure details about various insurgencies in Africa), an entire series covering the inter-related wars in Uganda, Rwanda, and the DRC came into being. This is including four titles, meanwhile:

    - Wars and Insurgencies in Uganda, 1971-1994 (guess, this one is self-explaining)

    - Rwandan Patriotic Front, 1990-1994 (this is actually the story of the entire war in Rwanda, from how comes so many Tutsis ended as refugees in Uganda of early 1960s, via their inclusion in Musewni-lead insurgency, to the flow of combat ops during the Rwandan Civil War, which then culminated in the genocide)

    - Great Lakes Holocaust (military history of the I Congo War, or the first Rwandan-Ugandan invasion of the country, in 1996-1997), and the above-mentioned:

    - Great Lakes Conflagration.

    Adrien and me have some further plans in this regards, but more about that when the time comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Try this one: Great Lakes Conflagration.

    It's based on interviews with 5-6 ZDF vets of that war, three Rwandans and few other participants - and is the military history of that conflict.
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