Saving their Souls in Fallujah?
I don't know what to make of this one. The Seattle Times story describes Marines apparently proselytizing as Christian missionaries in Fallujah.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...qgospel29.html
Would this not play into the hands of Al Qaeda's claims that the war in Iraq is cover for a war against Islam? I'm just sort of wondering out loud why a soldier or marine in an Islamic country would think this is a really good idea.
No signature required, my handshake is good enough.
Sounds like some idiot's trying to do something he
has no business doing -- American Soldiers and Marines excel at that.-- and some NCO is NOT doing his job of making sure that doesn't happen...
Heh. I foresee reverbrations descending from E-ring to the fire team level...
Yes
Whomever is doing this should stop, and even as a Christian I can say this with certainty. Constabulary authority doesn't mix well with evangelism. Some well-meaning but unwise young man just needs to be counseled. Good job for a 2nd Lt. Ten or Fifteen minute conversation, everything cleared up.
However ... I doubt that the story is as big as made out to be in this article. It sounds to me like someone was searching for a story to write.
Nah, LTs need to do LT stuff -- that's an NCO
failure, pure and simple. I have little doubt his first line boss knows he's doing that -- and NO doubt that he should know and should've never let it happen.
If, of course it happened at all...
You have no idea how this is playing in the bayous and backwoods of the bible belt. Oh my gosh the absolute riot that any muslim who takes offense should be crucified (direct quote).... Ouch...
Sam Liles
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Can anyone tell me about what exactly those being deployed to Iraq are being taught about Islam's views on converts? Specifically what is being taught about those who convert from being Muslim. From what I've read, this is the most evil of actions. Infidels are apparently better than those who convert away from Islam. (This isn't meant to sound critical. I am actually curious about what troops are being taught.)
Adam L
You cannot single-handedly accomplish the mission. But you sure can screw it up.
Flagrant stupidity should be an offense meriting judicial punishment under UCMJ. It is certainly more damaging to the mission than smoking pot during leave or getting a DUI (both candidates for UCMJ action).
Target practice with a Koran in Iraq (a Lithuanian Soldier and two ANA Soldiers were killed in Afghanistan after people freaked out over this) and handing out coins with bible verses in Fallujah (thanks for reinforcing the AQI propaganda) seem to fit neatly into that category.
Originally Posted by Danny
You should see what Salafi sites saying on all this... It is not that small incident for them.
This story remind me on time when Catholic "humanitarian" organization (CARITAS) refused to gave food and milk to people unless they can show them that one is Christian... So, I guess, story is big in many different circles regardless on polarity and with different reasons.
All true...
but it was in the Ebird so Ken is prolly right about E-ring reverberations...
Here's my guess....
2 COAs.
1. Someone really believes it's his duty to convert the Fallujah people to Christianity.
2. Some one or some platoon got their seventh care package from a Christian group and thought it would be funny to hand all the coins out.
"I'll take 'Second and Third Order Strategic Effects of Tactical Actions' for 2000, Alex."
Example is better than precept.
I'll take door 2...
and the rest of the day off...
How about "Monty's Cookie Jar (a variant on Door Number 2)--
Some evangelist gave the young stud a bunch of coins prior to deployment--sort of like the lady who got on the bus I was taking from San Fran International to Travis AFB en route to places Oriental. She gave me a handful of religious tracts and said, "Read this son and pass some out. It will comfort you when your plane crashes into the Pacific, like mine did."
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
The greatest educational dogma is also its greatest fallacy: the belief that what must be learned can necessarily be taught. — Sydney J. Harris
White's Razor...
Where Joe is involved, never put down to serious intent anything likely to be seen by him as 'fun' ...
IF it happened at all. That is a McClatchy report...
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