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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    The head of the BfV, Maassen, stated that Islamist terrorism is the BfV's "biggest challenge", not right-wing or left-wing terrorism, or foreign intelligence operations such as Russia's active measures. As head of the BfV since 2012, Maassen would know.
    THEN you are missing the massive fighting ongoing in Hamburg from these not so called left wing terrorists.....right now there are ongoing "true street battles" in a guerrilla hit and run style...

    Things are really getting ugly in Hamburg, with violent G20 protests (mostly hardcore antifas) doing real damage.

    Per German media coverage, Melania's hotel was besieged, 160+ police injured, and lots of things are on fire.

    Police won't clear @FLOTUS to leave residence in Hamburg right now b/c of protests, her spox confirms: ""It's unfortunate."

    However, the actual situation in Hamburg is a good deal worse than the media is reporting. My friends in German intel/LE have the goods.

    I've known them for years; they tell me that police from all over Germany are being dispatched to Hamburg before the #G20 gets overrun.

    Situation is so serious that Berlin has secretly ordered military units (incl armor) to Hamburg in case things get totally out of hand.

    Several Hamburg-area hospitals are already overflowing with casualties; others have been placed on war/mass casualty footing, in prep.

    Three highly trained and very experienced anti riot police teams have headed to Hamburg and it is not even night time yet where then it will be getting worse...if last night was any indcator


    Three major violence focused left groups are involved....antifa, automone, and anarchists.....rumors are that there are left radical groups that have joined them out of Greece and Sweden and Spain.....estimates indicate a total of roughly 10,000 radical leftists ready for violence...facing an equal number of police for a total of 20,000 mixing it up on the streets..

    German BfV ie their MI5 have reported the arrests of radicals out of France, Netherland and Switzerland....and that a large number from outside Germany arrived over the last weeks to avoid border controls....

    They are mixing themselves into peaceful G20 demonstrators then they hit and run out of that peaceful group on the police creating a large amount of chaos and confusion....

    Reporting press is trying to stay close to the events but move out of the way immediately when the "radicals show up"....the radicals are now being called the "Black Bloc"...

    Right now it is one massive cat and mouse game underway with a certain level of violence not seen for a long time in Germany AND it is not coming from jihadists....

    REMEMBER violence directed against the government is shared by both the extreme right and extreme left....the extreme right attacks government objects ie buildings etc....the extreme left attacks representatives of the government ie the police .....both share though a general hatred of the government ........
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    THEN you are missing the massive fighting ongoing in Hamburg from these not so called left wing terrorists.....right now there are ongoing "true street battles" in a guerrilla hit and run style...

    Things are really getting ugly in Hamburg, with violent G20 protests (mostly hardcore antifas) doing real damage.

    Per German media coverage, Melania's hotel was besieged, 160+ police injured, and lots of things are on fire.

    Police won't clear @FLOTUS to leave residence in Hamburg right now b/c of protests, her spox confirms: ""It's unfortunate."

    However, the actual situation in Hamburg is a good deal worse than the media is reporting. My friends in German intel/LE have the goods.

    I've known them for years; they tell me that police from all over Germany are being dispatched to Hamburg before the #G20 gets overrun.

    Situation is so serious that Berlin has secretly ordered military units (incl armor) to Hamburg in case things get totally out of hand.

    Several Hamburg-area hospitals are already overflowing with casualties; others have been placed on war/mass casualty footing, in prep.

    Three highly trained and very experienced anti riot police teams have headed to Hamburg and it is not even night time yet where then it will be getting worse...if last night was any indcator


    Three major violence focused left groups are involved....antifa, automone, and anarchists.....rumors are that there are left radical groups that have joined them out of Greece and Sweden and Spain.....estimates indicate a total of roughly 10,000 radical leftists ready for violence...facing an equal number of police for a total of 20,000 mixing it up on the streets..

    German BfV ie their MI5 have reported the arrests of radicals out of France, Netherland and Switzerland....and that a large number from outside Germany arrived over the last weeks to avoid border controls....

    They are mixing themselves into peaceful G20 demonstrators then they hit and run out of that peaceful group on the police creating a large amount of chaos and confusion....

    Reporting press is trying to stay close to the events but move out of the way immediately when the "radicals show up"....the radicals are now being called the "Black Bloc"...

    Right now it is one massive cat and mouse game underway with a certain level of violence not seen for a long time in Germany AND it is not coming from jihadists....

    REMEMBER violence directed against the government is shared by both the extreme right and extreme left....the extreme right attacks government objects ie buildings etc....the extreme left attacks representatives of the government ie the police .....both share though a general hatred of the government ........
    Yawn. This is par for the course when G20 Summits come to town. It's a traveling circus. I'll stick with what Herrs Maassen and de Maziere are saying, thank you.

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    Default Germany on Trade and Trading with the Enemy

    The Economist: The German problem:Why Germany’s current-account surplus is bad for the world economy

    Introduction:

    THE battle-lines are drawn. When the world’s big trading nations convene this week at a G20 summit in Hamburg, the stage is set for a clash between a protectionist America and a free-trading Germany.

    President Donald Trump has already pulled out of one trade pact, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and demanded the renegotiation of another, the North American Free-Trade Agreement. He is weighing whether to impose tariffs on steel imports into America, a move that would almost certainly provoke retaliation. The threat of a trade war has hung over the Trump presidency since January. In contrast, Angela Merkel, Germany’s chancellor and the summit’s host, will bang the drum for free trade. In a thinly veiled attack on Mr Trump, she delivered a speech on June 29th condemning the forces of protectionism and isolationism. An imminent free-trade deal between Japan and the European Union will add substance to her rhetoric (see article ).

    There is no question who has the better of this argument. Mr Trump’s doctrine that trade must be balanced to be fair is economically illiterate. His belief that tariffs will level the playing field is naive and dangerous: they would shrink prosperity for all. But in one respect, at least, Mr Trump has grasped an inconvenient truth. He has admonished Germany for its trade surplus, which stood at almost $300bn last year, the world’s largest (China’s hoard was a mere $200bn). His threatened solution—to put a stop to sales of German cars—may be self-defeating, but the fact is that Germany saves too much and spends too little. And the size and persistence of Germany’s savings hoard makes it an awkward defender of free trade.
    Washington Post: The United States and Europe are on a collision course over Iran

    Introduction:

    When the French energy giant Total signed a landmark gas deal with Iran this month, the company’s chief executive lauded the nearly $5 billion investment as a trailblazing initiative for peace.

    “We’re here to build bridges, not walls,” Patrick Pouyanné said in an interview with Agence France-Presse at the signing ceremony in Tehran.

    The venture, which includes China’s National Petroleum and the Iranian company Petropars, will develop the South Pars gas field under a 20-year contract. It is Iran’s first major energy contract with a European firm since a nuclear deal with world powers lifted sanctions on Iran last year.

    “Economic development is also a way of building peace,” Pouyanné said.

    Pouyanné’s remarks reflect a broader vision among European leaders for improving ties with Iran, in part by encouraging firms such as Total to invest now that major sanctions are gone. But his comments also highlight the growing rift between the United States and Europe over how to engage with Iran, which the Trump administration has identified as a global menace and singled out for sanctions and isolation.

    Since President Trump took office, Europe and the United States have pursued increasingly different courses on Iran, casting doubt over the future of the nuclear accord, which limits Iranian nuclear activities in exchange for sanctions relief and other trade.

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    Default Lone Actor attack @ Hamburg

    The BBC report starts:
    The man who killed one person and injured six in a supermarket knife attack in Hamburg was a "known Islamist", officials say."He was known as an Islamist but not a jihadist," Hamburg's Interior Minister Andy Grote said, noting the suspect also had "psychological" issues.
    The man, a failed asylum seeker born in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), attacked customers at random on Friday.
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40763369


    Via Twitter citing a German press report in Bild:
    Hamburg locals who cornered and overwhelmed Islamist knifeman on Friday: Afghan, Egyptian, German, Turkish
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    Default Investigators repeatedly missed chances to stop the Berlin killer

    Mistakes happen in many investigations, but it appears the Berlin terrorist attack with a hijacked lorry was far worse. Here is one passage:
    The special investigator found that, although Berlin police considered Amri to be the most dangerous Islamist in the city, they only put him under surveillance for a few weeks. Even then, the monitoring stopped on weekends and on public holidays.
    Link:https://www.thelocal.de/20171012/off...error-attacker
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    BERLIN (Reuters) - German police seized large quantities of guns and ammunition in raids on four locations in Berlin linked to a 40-year-old German man with suspected Islamist ties, the Berlin prosecutor’s office said on Wednesday.

    The man, a German citizen with a Turkish background, had previously been convicted of weapons violations, and frequented a mosque which was under surveillance by state security, said prosecutor spokeswoman Silke Becker.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ge...KBN1CU0W3?il=0
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    Default More knowledge leads to more questions

    More revelations about the Berlin truck attacker, just as the first anniversary comes, on the 19th December. The title and sub-title says enough:
    Christmas market terrorist Anis Amri may have been used as 'lure': German newspaper According to data obtained by Welt newspaper, German authorities knew more than a year in advance that Anis Amri presented a clear danger. Intelligence services may have hoped that he would lead them to other terrorists.
    Link:http://www.dw.com/en/christmas-marke...per/a-41828681
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    Default Only half of 'dangerous' Islamists actually dangerous - German police

    Odd timing for such an article after recent publicity over the mistakes made, but this is Germany. At a minimum it is a pointer to the assessment tool developed and in use. Here is a key phrase:
    But it's no great skill to identify people who are highly violent...The skill is in categorizing the people who are not dangerous among the people defined as endangerers.
    Link:http://www.dw.com/en/only-half-of-da...ce/a-41848406?
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    Default Returning fighters

    Via Twitter @Joseph_Roehmel reports:
    Majority of German foreign fighter returnees walk free due to lack of evidences and incentives for key witnesses. State of Bavaria, for example, imprisoned 3 of 22 returnees, Hamburg only 1 of 25!
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    German Chancellor Angela Merkel made a major concession to Europe's populist movement this week when she admitted the existence of so-called “no-go zones” in Germany.
    Conservatives and populists have long warned of the existence of such zones as the partial consequence of mass Muslim migration from the Middle East and Africa, particularly after Merkel opened Germany’s borders in 2015 as a response to the Syrian refugee crisis. Such areas are said to be dogged by high-levels of crime and are described as "no-go zones" because outsiders, including police and other authorities, are unable to enter.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/03...n-germany.html

    By The Associated Press
    BERLIN — Feb 28, 2018, 11:58 AM ET
    In an interview Monday with German broadcaster n-tv, Merkel said she favors a zero tolerance policy on crime and that includes preventing no-go areas, "that's areas where nobody dares to go."
    She added: "There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them."
    Asked to name the areas, Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert told reporters Wednesday that "the chancellor's words speak for themselves."
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...-go-areas.html
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    Default Extreme right group members found guilty of terror-related crimes

    With almost no reporting outside Germany a year long trial of the 'Freital Group' ended today, after lengthy legal arguments:
    Eight people have been found guilty of numerous crimes including deliberate attacks on refugee shelters in Germany. After a yearlong trial, the legal points hinged on the very nature of the group's structure and intent.
    Link:http://www.dw.com/en/freital-group-members-found-guilty-of-terror-related-crimes/a-42852954?
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    BERLIN (AP) — Six people were detained in connection with what police and prosecutors allege was a plan to carry out an attack on Berlin's half-marathon Sunday, German authorities said. A police spokesman later said that no athletes or spectators had been in danger.
    The German daily Die Welt first reported that police foiled a plot to attack race spectators and participants with knives.The main suspect allegedly knew Anis Amri, a Tunisian who killed 12 people and injured dozens more when he drove a truck into a Christmas market in Berlin in December 2016, Die Welt reported.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-me...145628100.html

    Moderator adds: all six men were released without charge.


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    Default A German right-wing extremist soldier's double life

    Strange and I think his arrest was reported here. A German article that opens with:
    One year ago, a right-wing extremist German army officer was arrested on suspicion of terrorism, then it was discovered he was also leading a double life as a Syrian refugee. The case is anything but closed.In early February 2017, Franco A., a career soldier in the German army, the Bundeswehr, was apprehended by Austrian authorities as he attempted to retrieve a French pistol and ammunition that he had hidden in a bathroom at the Vienna airport. After checking his fingerprints in a database, authorities discovered that the man, born the son of an Italian father and a German mother in the Hesse region of Germany, was actually registered as a Syrian refugee and living in Bavaria. Despite the fact that he spoke hardly any Arabic and was supposed to be serving full-time at a Bundeswehr base in Alsace, nobody had realized he was leading a double life.
    Link:http://www.dw.com/en/a-german-right-...ife/a-43540639
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    Default The Under-Discussed Recent History Of The Radical Right Terrorism In Germany

    Back to the completed trial in July 2018 of XRW murderers, a wider commentary that concludes:
    These findings, though, do not lead to the conclusion that we experience a rigorous criminal prosecution against radical right offenders in Germany. On the contrary, when it comes to neo-Nazi violence in general (such as arson attacks, assaults, or riots), law enforcement often works slowly and hesitantly....This observation reveals an ambiguity in dealing with radical right violence in Germany. A consistent and decisive handling of this challenge by the prosecuting authorities is far off.
    The article is by a UK-based observer of the XRW, CARR; oddly this commentary is not on their website (link:https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/) and is on a website not seen before.

    Link:https://rantt.com/the-under-discusse...sm-in-germany/
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    Default Opinion: Neo-Nazis in Germany's police — put out the fire - and the Army SOF

    Hardly believable: a fax was sent last summer from a Frankfurt police station's fax to the lawyer representing some of the victims in the long running (NSU) Neo-Nazi murder spree trial. So the first link is to a commentary:https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-neo-na...ire/a-46794541

    Second is an August 2018 report of a Neo-Nazi cell inside the German Army SOF:https://www.dw.com/en/cases-of-far-r...ary/a-43352572
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    Default Ah, Berlin "we have a problem with our elite cops here"

    Alerted by Twitter to these arrests, but nothing readily found on the BBC. Then AM today a series of tweets from @andrewflood and summarised as and complete with links to various articles, some in German:
    Truly shocking revelations from Germany this morning of a far-right cell mostly composed of cops connected to the recent murder of a politician which had used their access to police computers to draw up a death list with 25,000 targets on it & stole 10,000 bullets + machine gun.
    Link:https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...505151489.html

    (Added) Or a UK newspaper, which is a summary only:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...P=share_btn_tw

    Oddly the first Google hit I did went to this Trotskyite website, which appears to have the same news and some commentary.
    Link:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../meck-j24.html
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