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    From The Soufan Group's conclusion on Berlin:
    Among the many counterterrorism challenges European authorities face, they will now face even greater pressure to secure venues that were not designed to be secure, against a weapon that was not designed to be a weapon.
    Link:http://soufangroup.com/tsg-intelbrie...uck-in-berlin/

    This point has been made, when it is quieter by those who advise on preventing attacks, that the enemy can easily adapt and bypass such static defences - however sophisticated (see BBC story with much "spin"). When vehicles were stopped from parking directly outside airport terminals here it was pointed out transferring an IED to a luggage trolley(s) would be just as effective - sadly as proved by Brussels airport.

    Yesterday's BBC story:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36806691

    A better BBC report today, by a different author:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38377884
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    UPDATE:

    The Polish driver of the long haul truck parked it at a construction site at 1500 because the steel parts were for this construction site on the day of the attack....and then went to eat...

    At 1600 the truck's GPS which is integrated into the entire truck's electronics indicated that someone other than the driver attempted to start the 40ton truck...but was not successful......

    Indicating a possible truck break in by the now wanted Tunisian....the truck remained stationary until 1900 when it began to move towards Berlin City West ie the Kudamm.....where the attack occurred at 20:08

    Concerning the truck jacking.....while the German FBI is chasing a Tunisian they still are thinking quietly that more were involved......as it is impossible to control a strong 37 year old physical fit hostage with just a knife and or pistol and drive a 40 ton truck at the same time so someone else is being assumed to have been in the cab controlling the Polish driver.

    The Polish driver was stabbed several times and it appears that he fought with the terrorist driver and was able to steer the truck largely away from the intended target area....as the German FBI indicated there were strong signs of a fight in the cab....then after the truck impacted and then stopped the terrorist driver appears to have shot the Polish driver in the head and fled...

    German authorities are giving the Polish driver high marks for fighting and diverting the truck in the final moments of the attack.....

    Reference the wanted Tunisian ---he has given upon registering as a refugee three different names ...is known to the police due to petty crime activities and has been caught carrying a number of different passports...the German FBI is not sure of his actual age other than what he has given ie 21 during registration as a refugee and sometimes 23 when arrested for a petty crime....

    NOTE: and this is important....THIS is not your typical IS jihadi attack....

    The German FBI has an online site to upload videos...photos...and any witness statements which has led to over 700 witness statements and a lot of videos.....

    Today it has been under a massive and strong DDoS attack attempting to knock it off the net and to hinder any further witness information from getting to the German FBI...

    THIS has never been done anywhere in Europe in past IS attacks....

    We have been tracking two attacks avenues one coming out of the ME area and another coming out of the Russian area....yes IS can use any number of worldwide servers for a DDoS attack, but Russian criminal groups often use Russian servers for these type of attacks themselves and or "rent out those severs to whoever pays well"......



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    BREAKING: German state minister says security agencies have identified Berlin attack suspect as being in contact with Islamist network

    German FBI is indicating that the driver was under suspicion of planning and attack but the investigation was stopped as they had no concrete evidence in order to charge him....

    He had been the target of tight surveillance as a suspected terrorist but was lost as he was constantly changing his town of residence ....and moving daily
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    UPDATE: The Polish driver of the long haul truck parked it at a construction site at 1500 because the steel parts were for this construction site on the day of the attack....and then went to eat...
    Something is not normal about this attack...the Tunisian who is being manhurted for had contacts to various radical jihadist individuals and groups in Germany BUT not to definitively not IS....

    IS did not name him in their claiming statement which is not normal for them...almost as they really did not know who the attacker was AND now the hacking attack not your standard IS TPP.........

    If we take the Russian voiced threat seriously from Mar 2016 could this actually have been a false flag attack using a radicalized Muslim refugee?
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    German police search migrant shelter near Netherlands border: media
    http://www.geo.tv/latest/124504-Germ...-border-media#

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    German government is serious about arresting him....they just released a 100,000 Euro reward for any tip leading to his arrest and or those that supported him........

    BMJV ‏@BMJV_Bund 26m
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    Fahndung Anis AMRI im Zusammenh. #breitscheidplatz:
    Erklärung #GBA: http://www.generalbundesanwalt.de/de...id=654#…
    Fahndungsplakat @bka:
    https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherheit...=61060#…


    This amount of money will definitely loosen tongues in the refugee and general population....wanted photos being spread all across Germany and in every major Germany city...countries bordering Germany have instituted border checks of all vehicles...trains and or buses....
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    Paris operatives did same. 2 interned in Cyprus because the 'Iraqi' couldn't speak Arabic and the 'Syrian' couldn't find Aleppo on a map.
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    BBC News - Berlin truck attack suspect: What do we know?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38396987#

    Berlin terror suspect said to have moved within Abu Walaa's circle. Who's he?
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37906960#
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
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    Something is not normal about this attack...the Tunisian who is being manhurted for had contacts to various radical jihadist individuals and groups in Germany BUT not to definitively not IS....

    IS did not name him in their claiming statement which is not normal for them...almost as they really did not know who the attacker was AND now the hacking attack not your standard IS TPP.........

    If we take the Russian voiced threat seriously from Mar 2016 could this actually have been a false flag attack using a radicalized Muslim refugee?
    Why do non-suicide ISIS terrorists tend to leave their passports on the crime scene? This makes no sense. First in Paris, now in Berlin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Why do non-suicide ISIS terrorists tend to leave their passports on the crime scene? This makes no sense. First in Paris, now in Berlin.
    Outlaw 09,

    The wish for martyrdom I think. Plus if they escape from the scene the publicity for a known suspect amplifies the message.

    IIRC in the 7/7 suicide bombings in London (in 2005) at least one suspect was carrying personal ID, which accelerated the investigation and quickly id'd the "bomb factory" @ Leeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Outlaw 09,

    The wish for martyrdom I think. Plus if they escape from the scene the publicity for a known suspect amplifies the message.

    IIRC in the 7/7 suicide bombings in London (in 2005) at least one suspect was carrying personal ID, which accelerated the investigation and quickly id'd the "bomb factory" @ Leeds.
    Thanks David.

    I'm afraid that there is some denial about Muslim supremacist terrorism here. I add the "supremacist" label, because that is what it is. We don't call white supremacist terrorism "white terrorism" now do we?

    Accusing Russia of a false flag attack does nothing to change the fact that there is a supremacist strain within Islam (up to 4%), that is growing, speaking for all Muslims, suppressing dissent within Islam and from which jihadis come.

    The Western approach to Muslim supremacism is akin to letting Christian Identity off the hook out of "religious tolerance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Thanks David.

    I'm afraid that there is some denial about Muslim supremacist terrorism here. I add the "supremacist" label, because that is what it is. We don't call white supremacist terrorism "white terrorism" now do we?

    Accusing Russia of a false flag attack does nothing to change the fact that there is a supremacist strain within Islam (up to 4%), that is growing, speaking for all Muslims, suppressing dissent within Islam and from which jihadis come.

    The Western approach to Muslim supremacism is akin to letting Christian Identity off the hook out of "religious tolerance".
    Azor.....I am sick and tired of comments such as these coming from what people call an educated man (Mr Trump)......who thinks he is smart and does not need intel briefings because he is smart....

    TRUMP......
    Trump Suggests Berlin Attack Affirms His Plan to Bar Muslims

    WHAT Trump did not apparently know is how tight the German government had him under surveillance and was attempting to deport him...BUT naturally Trump being smarter than Germans knew this already...


    Statistically seen every known ethnic community has at least 1% of the group that is violent in some form and YES that includes Americans.

    The German BKA and MAD had this guy under tight surveillance for exactly 180 days...which is the longest possible under German law...leftover from Hitler days to protect the common man.....during that period they had info he was going to rob something in order to get money for weapons.......nothing happened in those 180 days and they were forced to stop surveillance.

    The Germans are having a problem confirming the past history of those that came into Germany.....remember this is 2016 not 1980 when the Allies controlled Berlin and every single person arriving in Berlin went through a serious security check even escaping GDR Border Guards....

    This attacker was from a deep Salafist area inside Tunisian.....and only after this attack did the Tunisians do an interrogation of his family.

    Germany was ready to deport him and had him under surveillance BUT Tunisia refused to accept him back into the country....THEREIN lies the core problem.....the native countries for jihadists/common criminals do not want them back....

    The second problem is that no government not even the US government can tell you exactly what someone thinks in their own mind if they say nothing...we are not at the mind control stage....YET.....

    I am still standing by my comment...this is/was not your common typical IS attack.....truck jacking used...kidnapping used....knife and gun used....someone had to have helped with the jacking....and he fled instead of "dying in the name of god"............

    AND this is critical...WHILE IS claimed it they did not name the attacker...they used the term "fighter"....which loosely means he identified with us but was not one of us....in jihadi speak....

    There have been multiple raids late last night against known Salafists....do not think for a moment German security agencies do not know their opponents....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
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    Something is not normal about this attack...the Tunisian who is being manhurted for had contacts to various radical jihadist individuals and groups in Germany BUT not to definitively not IS....

    IS did not name him in their claiming statement which is not normal for them...almost as they really did not know who the attacker was AND now the hacking attack not your standard IS TPP.........

    If we take the Russian voiced threat seriously from Mar 2016 could this actually have been a false flag attack using a radicalized Muslim refugee?
    Are you saying that Russia would stage a terrorist attack in Berlin in order to ensure Merkel's electoral defeat?

    Are you serious?

    To what end? Sanctions relief? Is there no other way for Putin to weaken European resolve over Ukraine other than potentially triggering an Article V response if discovered? Certainly, Merkel couldn't keep quiet if this was state terror...

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