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    Default German police

    I cannot stand the "COIN comes home to assist policing" thread, so I won't post this there.


    Here's something that's no doubt more inspiring than warfare for policemen:

    boingboing.net: German police fired 85 bullets in 2011

    google translate version of original German message

    Six persons killed, 15 wounded by police gunshots in an entire year.
    Population: 81.8 million

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    Itwilllbeok sez, "According to the German Police University police officers used exactly 85 bullets in 2011 - 49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed. Germany has a population of about 80 million. (This does only take into account shots in connection with crimes. There were an additional 9000 shots on dangerous, sick and injured animals)."
    It's okay, Germany, Ricky Bobby is all over your problem.

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    Default Hielten sich fur Captain Kirk

    Humor.

    Chris Rock - Bullet Control - Youtube

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    49 warning shots!? We don't do that hear.

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    In einer Befragung des Meinungsforschungsinstituts YouGov sprachen sich 65,3 Prozent der Befragten fr eine Beendigung des Kampfeinsatzes vor dem vereinbarten Termin Ende 2014 aus. Nur 20,5 Prozent waren dafr, an dem innerhalb der NATO abgestimmten Zeitplan festzuhalten.
    http://www.sat1.de/news/politik/deut...n-abzug-102469

    In a poll of [...] YouGov expressed 65.3 per cent of the polled for an end of the combat mission prior to the agreed date of end of 2014. Only 20.5 per cent favoured to stick to the [...] timetable.


    The German government is still ruling against its own people in regard to Afghanistan, and the mass media is a passive supporter of this behaviour.

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    Default Megaphones are dangerous

    An ICSR comment on recent German law enforcement action, although described as a:
    massive crackdown
    There is as yet little detail on whether charges followed and what the scale of the action was:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18439914

    (Added) More details on:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-Germany.html

    It does raise the question whether such megaphone users are just vocal or the activity is part of the "conveyor belt" to violence:
    This emerging network is often dismissed as harmless because of its megaphone tactics. However, every new case makes it more obvious that many of its members are linked to Al Qaeda or go on to become involved in terrorism.
    Link:http://icsr.info/publications/newsle...eJihadists.pdf
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    Painting them as criminals and disrupting their 'business' by confiscating computers and paperworks are probably the main effects of such a crackdown.


    It's notable that the state has allies in form of moderate muslims who get into uncomfortable situations because of the extremists. They, too, had one more occasion to lay out their position.

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    Default Trial reveals an Al-Qaeda cell in Dsseldorf

    A recommended German article, although the Google translation is not perfect, on a current trial in Germany:http://ojihad.wordpress.com/2012/07/...werden-helden/

    What is of note is how the primary suspect was identified:
    The profiles of hundreds of violent Islamists were analyzed. In the end, a man stuck in the grid....
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    Incendiary Informants - Did German Intelligence Fuel Far-Right Extremism?, Spiegel Online, 11/06/2012.
    A secret paper written by senior police officers paints a disastrous picture of Germany's domestic intelligence agency. It suggests that the service may have actually strengthened the country's far-right scene through its large network of far-right informants.
    Very interesting, but painful to read.
    “[S]omething in his tone now reminded her of his explanations of asymmetric warfare, a topic in which he had a keen and abiding interest. She remembered him telling her how terrorism was almost exclusively about branding, but only slightly less so about the psychology of lotteries…” - Zero History, William Gibson

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    Default There is no simple answer, and there are no quick answers

    A superb FT article on the context for the neo-Nazi or extreme nationalist fringe in Germany and those who use violence:http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/dfda3010-3...44feabdc0.html

    The article asks:
    What does the case reveal about the rise of the far right in the former GDR?.....the affair has also revived an equally fundamental concern: why has far right ideology gained a foothold in the former GDR, attracting young people who emerged from the wreckage of communism?
    Interesting angle in:
    Bernd Wagner was an East German policeman who began hunting neo-Nazis in the East in 1964, long before unification, when he was based at Berlin’s infamous police headquarters in the Alex#an#d#er#platz.....now runs an organisation called Exit from a nondescript office in east Berlin, dedicated to helping young people escape from the far-right “scene”. “We are a contact group for people who want to break with their ideology,” he says. “We’re here to help them give up.” It is not an easy task. “Don’t think these are just young people. Today’s activists are 25 to 55. They have ‘recruiters’ in the music scene, the clubs and culture scene. It’s a spider’s web right across Germany.
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    Keep in mind that this far right is without actual political influence, a minority in just about everything (including at their own demonstrations, which are always outnumbered by counter-demonstrations) and are rarely taken seriously due to their let's say 'lack of intellectualism'.


    The real risk of right extremist or authoritarian ideas exerting influence is to be found in the influence of closet right wingers in the conservative parties (especially in Bavaria) and in Schill's now-defunct Hamburg party in Hamburg.

    The overt right extremist subculture (we have seemingly hundreds of subcultures in Germany!) is below marginalised in German society in all but a few rural areas of Saxony.

    Just an example: This is the NPD's (their party) equivalent of the RNC/DNC:



    So no matter how much is being told and written about their recruiting network and subculture; keep in mind it's being written because people are sensitive to the need to keep extremists marginalised at the far edge of society.

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    Default IED at Bonn railway station

    I'd not heard of this incident, but ICSR @ Kings College, London has provided a short commentary and asks:
    The wider significance of this incident will become clear once investigators have determined whether Abdirazak had succeeded in joining a foreign terrorist group, received training, and acted on its behalf. If not, this incident might be a further example of the strategy of “lone actor” terrorism, which has been actively promoted by Al Qaeda.
    Link:http://icsr.info/2012/12/icsr-insigh...n-bonngermany/
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    A recommended German article, although the Google translation is not perfect, on a current trial in Germany:http://ojihad.wordpress.com/2012/07/...werden-helden/

    What is of note is how the primary suspect was identified:
    And as usual, the story shows how stupid and full of errors these errorists are.
    Four Kings-like idiots.

    Meanwhile, a man died in a car crash involving a bus, and about a dozen people were injured. Traffic accidents involving buses totally overpower the lethality and threat value of errorists in Germany and for Germans.

    So who's going to do something about unsafe buses !?

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    Only a few months remain for a parliamentary inquiry into failures by German security agencies over a series of murders carried out by the NSU right-wing terrorists. But important evidence is still missing.
    A short update and surprise, surprise:
    Even in the agencies, there's a clear admission that the right hand did not know what the left hand was doing.
    Link:http://www.dw.de/time-runs-out-for-f...iry/a-16529520
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    Default West German Law Enforcement Intelligence Analysis and Reaction to the Red Army Factio

    West German Law Enforcement Intelligence Analysis and Reaction to the Red Army Faction

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    Default German Jihad: On the Internationalization of Islamist Terrorism

    A new book by a respected author; this is the publisher's website:http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-2...0/german-jihad
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    Default The lady Nazi leader - of a three person cell

    An interesting report, although probably familiar to Germans. 'German neo-Nazi trial gives insight into secret life of Beate Zschpe', sub-titled:
    To her neighbours in the quiet German town of Zwickau, she was the "friendly, sociable and generous" young woman who liked to drop by for a glass of prosecco. To her comrades on the German far Right, she was a smart, assertive and violent member of their secret terrorist militia.
    Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-Zschape.html
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    Default A two year trial

    The group of neo-nazis responsible for racially motivated murders across Germany has appeared here before, last post is above, and then dropped out of sight. The BBC has two short reports and so I learmt:
    Beate Zschaepe has been on trial for more than two years.
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35039672 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35049586

    Update: what did the lady say in court? See:http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...e-over-attacks
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    Default "We have not gone away" - after an eighteen year gap

    A statement by Gerry Adams about the Provisional IRA IRRC, but this time applies to Germany:
    Three fugitive members of a notorious communist terror cell who have been on the run for 18 years have been traced to the scene of a botched armed robbery. Police believe three people who held up a security van last summer are former members of the far-left Red Army Faction (RAF), also known as the Baader-Meinhof gang...The terror group disbanded in 1998...
    Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ime-scene.html
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    Default Update

    In the latest incident, the security van was held up in broad daylight by masked gunmen armed with an automatic rifle and an anti-tank rocket launcher.
    Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...robbery-in-ge/
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