Germany (catch all, incl. terrorism)

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New Rules for SIGINT Collection in Germany: A Look at the Recent Reform
By Thorsten Wetzling
Friday, June 23, 2017, 3:00 PM

https://lawfareblog.com/new-rules-si...-recent-reform

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Berlin: McDonald's restaurant evacuated after gas cylinder with attached detonator was found.
http://www.bild.de/regional/berlin/p...=de.bild.html#

[Azor]

Interesting comment in that it does not reflect that all NATO member ICs which includes the USG ICs all 17 of them...ALL "spy" on each other...

Nevertheless, this state of affairs did little to assauge the U.S. with regard to Pollard, or Germany et al with regard to the NSA. I didn't realize that the U.S. had 17 intelligence communities; I had understood that it had a single intelligence community comprised of 17 agencies

This type of "spying" while not intended to actively recruit employees of those governments is considered to be normal...why it is designed to fill the gap on exactly what their decision makers are up to so the the "spying" country can adjust accordingly their FP or if they are in a FP decision cycle...

BUT watch US reactions when say Mossad actively recruits a US Jewish citizen to reveal highly classified materials ie Pollack....

BUT if one knows the Cold War days the BND was never really trusted by US and UK and other NATO partners due to the closeness of the GDR, the Stasi and KGB...not because the Germans provided "bad" information when intel sharing...

BTW..right now Germany is one of the leading intel services providing extensive HUMINT and SIGINT to the USG ICs on Trump and company.

WHEN using the German law paras be sure to mention that until a State prosecutor states and files an actual court case using one of those paras...it is only words, more words and more confusion....

BTW...notice that while you highlight this article the Steel Dossier on Trump which was raw HUMINT reporting never seems to get to the level of solid low level spying thus has creditability as 80% was verified....and is disregarded by many for that exact reason...low level raw HUMINT...

Oh, the record seems to be broken again...More cut and paste from other threads. I had thought that MI6 and the EIB were assisting the U.S. IC?

You really must have a thing for Angie, given your adulation of her. Unfortunately, discussing Germany and the EU with you is akin to discussing Assad and Syria with the "Syrian Electronic Army".

[Azor]

From Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ge...-idUSKBN19P1MY

According to Hans-Georg Maassen, head of the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Bundesamt fuer Verfassungsschutz or BfV):

We must expect further attacks by individuals or terror groups...Islamist terrorism is the biggest challenge facing the BfV and we see it as one of the biggest threats facing the internal security of Germany

• The BfV's annual report for 2016 claimed that there are 24,400 Islamists in Germany, including 9,700 Salafists (increased to 10,100 for 2017) and 10,000 members of the Turkish Islamist Milliu Gorus movement
  
  
• The report indicated the hundreds of jihadists had entered Germany over the past two years among the 1 million+ migrants
  
  
• Maassen estimated that 930 people had left Germany to fight with Islamic State in Syria or Iraq, of whom about 20 percent were women, and of which an estimated 145 of the total people had since died,
  
  
• Interior Minister de Maiziere noted that the BfV was monitoring 680 potential Islamist threats, most of which were Salafist-influenced

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From Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ge...-idUSKBN19P1MY

According to Hans-Georg Maassen, head of the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Bundesamt fuer Verfassungsschutz or BfV):

• The BfV's annual report for 2016 claimed that there are 24,400 Islamists in Germany, including 9,700 Salafists (increased to 10,100 for 2017) and 10,000 members of the Turkish Islamist Milliu Gorus movement
  
  
• The report indicated the hundreds of jihadists had entered Germany over the past two years among the 1 million+ migrants
  
  
• Maassen estimated that 930 people had left Germany to fight with Islamic State in Syria or Iraq, of whom about 20 percent were women, and of which an estimated 145 of the total people had since died,
  
  
• Interior Minister de Maiziere noted that the BfV was monitoring 680 potential Islamist threats, most of which were Salafist-influenced

In the same report and largely overlooked is the figure of 18,000 ultra rightists of which 12,000 are seen as ready to use violence...with a strong increase in ultra right violent acts in this year.....far more than anything from jihadists.....

Interestingly is the number of ultra leftists.....which has remained steady with attacks from the ultra left actually decreasing....

Part of the problem is that while German security is constantly watching jihadists it is losing the oversight of ultra right and left....