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    The Dubai police CCTV compilation is on Abu M:http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawam...eaking-ct.html

    There are pictures of a time chart and a few other details.

    One clear gap is whether the suspects were forensically aware, so will have not left any DNA or fingerprints behind - notably in the hotel rooms used. Without that evidence any Interpol circulation is flawed, who are the real suspects using the forged passports? Tracing the phone calls made and the money used offer some options and "dead ends".

    Stratfor have a You Tube item:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTmRy...layer_embeddedwith an ex-US DoS expert commenting (Hat tip to Free Radicals blogsite).
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    One clear gap is whether the suspects were forensically aware, so will have not left any DNA or fingerprints behind - notably in the hotel rooms used.
    Dubai police do reportedly have retinal scans of the suspects, presumably taken at the airport.
    They mostly come at night. Mostly.


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    A fascinating update from Dubai, picked up by the BBC too; photos of the suspects, the use of an Iowa, USA bank's credit cards and charts on the travel pattern: Dubai link http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....702249835/1133 Note I cannot get the travel charts to download and the BBC link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8534303.stm
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Note I cannot get the travel charts to download and the BBC link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8534303.stm
    Try right-clicking on the link and selecting "Save Link As", which will download the pdf to your hard drive.

    Or see a JPEG of it here.

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    It remains to be seen how many of the newly-identified suspects are actually operatives (and, for that matter, Israeli operatives).

    However, if Dubai police are now circulating their photos, and possible biometric, DNA, fingerprints, and other evidence, Mossad sure compromised a lot of personnel for the purpose of one assassination.
    They mostly come at night. Mostly.


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    There is a very long, sometimes confusing and full of interesting points on this murder on:http://www.schneier.com/blog/archive...houh_assa.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Brynen View Post
    ... if Dubai police are now circulating their photos, and possible biometric, DNA, fingerprints, and other evidence, Mossad sure compromised a lot of personnel for the purpose of one assassination.
    We don't have any way of knowing if this was simply intended to eliminate one person. There could have been a trove of materials of significant intelligence value on his person (details of arms shipments, banking information for fund transfers, intelligence that would lead to the capture/killing of others like this clown, etc). If the intelligence leads to the death or capture of other high value jerkoffs or to strangling lines of supply to Hamas, then the payoff is far greater than just one KIA.

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    Here is the news regarding Iran's recent capture of the leader of Jundullah.

    ... Rigi, Iran's most wanted fugitive, was seized on Tuesday after Iranian warplanes reportedly forced a flight from Dubai to Kyrgyzstan to land in Iran.
    - link (emphasis added, for comparison with the next quote - Schmedlap)
    Now, imagine the outcry if the following changes were made to that quote...

    ... al Mabhouh, a senior member of Hamas, was seized on Tuesday after Israeli warplanes reportedly forced a flight from Dubai to Lebanon to land in Israel.
    When considering the prudence of (alleged?) Israeli assassinations, I think it is worth pausing for a moment to understand why Israel thinks that it needs to resort to assassination. It's not like they're going to get much help from their neighbors. I don't hear a lot of cries of anger from Dubai or Kyrgyzstan over military aircraft forcing a jet to land in Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    A fascinating update from Dubai, picked up by the BBC too; photos of the suspects, the use of an Iowa, USA bank's credit cards and charts on the travel pattern: Dubai link http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....702249835/1133 Note I cannot get the travel charts to download and the BBC link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8534303.stm

    How did all of these passports come into the possession of law enforcement? Are they scans/photocopies made at the airport?

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    Jon,

    I expect that Dubai uses the standard passport scanning IT so often seen at airports around the world. IIRC Dubai as an international airline hub is required by the US DHS to have such equipment.

    Perhaps others here know more. I am aware that Dubai law enforcement is very IT friendly, well illustrated by the released information so far.
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    A different analysis:http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...astoriginalsL5

    I like the point why expose so many operatives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I like the point why expose so many operatives?
    I suspect that:

    1) Not everyone so far identified is actually Israeli

    2) Dubai is IDing (as the article suggests) Israeli operatives who may have passed through for other reasons, either because:

    2a) They had already IDed some of these

    2b) The hit team left evidence (for example, credit cards all issued by the same small US bank) that allowed Dubai to ID others

    2c) There is an element of deterrence/retaliation in Dubai's actions.
    They mostly come at night. Mostly.


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