All matters MRAP JLTV (merged thread)

[B.Smitty]

Six in back plus two up front is fine. With six HMMWVs, even with six additional drivers, there's still enough space for the entire platoon.

Add external stowage racks for rucks, spare tires and other gear.

BAE produced a field-installable armor kit for the M1152 that provides armor protection for troops in back as well as five weapon stations.

http://www.baesystems.com/ProductsSe...152_troop.html

[Fuchs]

There's a difference between theory and practice. In practice, even a 2+ ton truck such as Unimog can be small for a squad of ten simply because of all the gear.

Look at vehicle qty and personnel figures of large formations. The heads/vehicle ratio is surprisingly small even with the use of many large and outright huge vehicles.

I doubt that 10 men with their rucksack, individual weapon, webbing including canteen and other pouches and helmets fit into any of those "stretched Land Rover" or "stretched HMWWV" on a regular basis.

It's furthermore no good idea to use closed canopy vehicleswithout a substantial qty of spare seats in a unit; some vehilces break down and need to beleft behind at times. Which vehicle is going to carry their personnel if there's no spare capacity?

[B.Smitty]

The US manages to fit 37-8 dismounts in 4 Strykers plus mounted element.

Six troop carrier HMMWVs per platoon carrying 2+6 allows for 6 drivers and 42 dismount seats. There's 4-5 extra seats, assuming a similar sized platoon.

That's more room than in the 4 Strykers.

IIRC, the Stryker platoon mounted element is normally 7 soldiers (4 drivers and 3 vehicle commander/gunners). So the ratio of dismounts to vehicle crews is similar between the two organizations. I didn't allot any gunners to the HMMWV platoon, but there is enough "space" for a few, if desired.

[B.Smitty]

Six M1152s at GVW weigh around 33 tonnes. That's the same as two Strykers, or half the weight of a Stryker platoon's vehicles.

Assuming a generous $200k per M1152, you could outfit an entire company with them for the price of one Stryker ICV ($3.8M).

[Tukhachevskii]

Six M1152s at GVW weigh around 33 tonnes. That's the same as two Strykers, or half the weight of a Stryker platoon's vehicles.

Assuming a generous $200k per M1152, you could outfit an entire company with them for the price of one Stryker ICV ($3.8M).

... for hard up recession hit armies. If you buy our bog-standard light troop carrier in preference to one from our competitors for your "Toyota Horde" (hat tip to old Wilf) then we'll outfit your vehicle in a number of snazzy colours (unfortunately, due to customer demand, periwinkle blue is no longer avaliable!) /