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    Alas only one photo of the new UK military camouflage uniform:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-in-China.html

    The link says it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Alas only one photo of the new UK military camouflage uniform:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...-in-China.html
    Truly depressing. Quite the stupidest thing I have seen in a very long time. - £250,000 to develop??? Ya All*H!

    Why not just wear OD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    Truly depressing. Quite the stupidest thing I have seen in a very long time. - £250,000 to develop??? Ya All*H!

    Why not just wear OD?
    You should have a look at the ACU's colours, that eases the pain (in regard to the British pattern).


    It's said to be a Multicam version tailored for the UK, to look distinctly British instead of global Multicam. The costs are likely in great part license costs.

    Multicam has a good reputation, but true combat/scout troops camouflage should be at last one step ahead of a mere print pattern:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuchs View Post
    Multicam has a good reputation, but true combat/scout troops camouflage should be at last one step ahead of a mere print pattern:

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    If it really works, then great, but "camouflage saves lives"? I just don't buy it as being that simple. It's grossly overselling a pretty marginal, if nor wholly irrelevant issue.

    In "Wilf's Army" everyone just wears OG/US Govt OD - and adds what's needed as and when required.
    Infinity Journal "I don't care if this works in practice. I want to see it work in theory!"

    - The job of the British Army out here is to kill or capture Communist Terrorists in Malaya.
    - If we can double the ratio of kills per contact, we will soon put an end to the shooting in Malaya.
    Sir Gerald Templer, foreword to the "Conduct of Anti-Terrorist Operations in Malaya," 1958 Edition

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    The law of diminishing returns is of course in effect.

    Soldiers who already attempt to hide with cover, concealment, paint, natural camouflage (branches, grass) and shadows will have only small benefits from using a high-end camouflage.

    But then again there are CvC's easy things that only seem to be easy and Murphy's law. Photos of WW2 soldiers with properly camouflaged helmets aren't exactly in the majority. It's tough to keep up a camouflage effort for weeks if it deteriorates to "useless" or even "tell-tale" within hours.


    Camouflage clothing is relatively cheap and can make the difference between being detected and not being detected. That's especially true in the near-IR and IR spectrum (starlight scope, thermal).

    There's also a psychological factor, just as with reliable rifles. Morale is ceteris paribus better if the equipment is being perceived as great - and an impressive clothing camouflage qualifies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    Why not just wear OD?
    simple, cheap, effective solutions to non-problems which the bureaucracy has ever-so-stupidly elevated to problem status in inane efforts to garner more funds from the taxpayers...

    Sheesh.

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