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    Default Of course;

    if you're a good girl, I give you this:



    If you're a bad girl, I give you Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmm99 View Post
    if you're a good girl, I give you this:

    Regards

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    Aww, Potyomkin's willage, thanks. Provided that you are good at history, I suppose you use the term ironically, because Potyomkin's willages were actual willages, not just empty carcasses with fancy frontfaces, and the term itself was invented to frame Potyomkin.

    @OUTLAW 09

    So mirhond living like the days of say 1973 with rancid butter sold to you by the EU, using a steel pick to see which loaf of bread was as hard as a rock, cold apartments heated with even poorer brown coal, and waiting in line for hours only to be told that what ever it was is gone and now going back to that is what Progress?
    Slippery Slope Fallacy http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html
    None of these terrrible things happened, yet.


    What will destroy the system as you mentioned is in fact just why Putin made his moves in the Ukraine---namely "the Street".
    I prefer marxist term "masses", besides "the Street" is useless against Putin &Co. I participated in 2011 winter protests, so when I came closer to a line of internal security troops, I discovered some dead-eyed guys who will spray the crowd with automatic gunfire without second thought. So, I'am quit. That's why "The Street" has nothing to do with current regime. Old-skool popular revolution has.

    So it appears you are basically agreeing below that is better to suffer conditions that might make Russians enjoy living in say Zambia
    I can't say for every Russian, but I, personally, would rather be mizerable, opressed but alive than free but dead.

    Let's see---a Ukraine taught Communism for say 45 years
    I've just made a historical discover! As far as I know, Ukraine was de-facto part of USSR from the wery beginning at 1922.

    Ranting, raving and filling paper with words does not make a writer---- is an old Russian saying---the KGB saying is that it makes one a terrorist.
    Ad Hominem Fallacy http://www.fallacyfiles.org/adhomine.html
    Again, try to attack my argument, not my personality.

    Enjoy the waiting in line at your bank for the coming weeks--
    Appeal to Consequence of Belief Fallacy http://www.fallacyfiles.org/adconseq.html

    Besides, my bank account is empty, I live from paycheck to paycheck, I have it in cash and I always pay cash. Banking may go to hell

    I know you know this old Stalin/KGB saying;
    "One person is a demonstration, Two people a riot and Three people a revolution"
    No, never heard this. Provide a source, please.

    By the way you forgot to mention that those that have a red banner on their arms could also be the old Guard Soviet auxiliary police
    Who have a red banner? Are you talking about the photo with Sturmabteilung or about the video with Hitlerjugend? If I missed something, please, correct me.

    carl, do you even understand what fallacy is? You are the native English-speaker, you must know the term.
    Please, read the http://www.fallacyfiles.org/whatarff.html it will discipline your mind, improve your thinking, reasoning and arguing skills. Or start from fighting cognitive biaseshttp://www.overcomingbias.com/about at least you will be aware of it. Learn from Firn - his statements usually probabilistic, it means he is a good rationalist.
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    Mirhond,

    How long do you think people should have lived in an area - such as Crimea - before they can vote in such a referendum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    Mirhond,

    How long do you think people should have lived in an area - such as Crimea - before they can vote in such a referendum?
    I have no idea, too much hidden variables. What's the common practice? Provided that a person has a legal residential status - no less than five years, I believe.
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    OK, sounds good.

    Now should that person be a citizen of that country or can any passport holder from a neighbouring country arrive and vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    I have no idea, too much hidden variables. What's the common practice? Provided that a person has a legal residential status - no less than five years, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMA View Post
    OK, sounds good.
    Now should that person be a citizen of that country or can any passport holder from a neighbouring country arrive and vote?
    Who's passport holder at the first plase in this particular case? Non-resident, tourist, visitor? Or a compatriot who just lives abroad for a long time? Give a narrow definition, please.
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    1600 GMT: While Russia is presenting the referendum today as a move to save the region from neo-Nazis, a large number of the ‘independent observers’ spotted monitoring the vote today come from Europe’s extreme right.

    A sample of the far right figures here includes:

    Bela Kovacs – a Hungarian MEP for the neo-Nazi Jobbik party.

    Aymeric Chauprade – a nationalist, pro-Russian political theorist and member of France’s far-right Front National, whose leader, Marine Le Pen has supported Russia’s stance on Ukraine and condemned “extremists” in the Maidan movement.

    Frank Creyelman – a Belgian MEP for the far-right Vlaams Belang party (formerly Vlaams Blok).

    Ewald Johann Stadler – an MEP in the late Jörg Haider’s Bündnis Zukunft Österreich (Alliance for the Future of Austria).

    Luc Michel – active with various neo-nazi groups in Belgium and is a supporter of Eduard Limonov’s National Bolshevik party.

    Others include communists or those with nostalgic sympathies for the Soviet Union such as Angourakis and Al-Sabty, or those with extremely close ties to United Russia such as Johan Bäckman. Bäckman is a finish Finnish political activist who has been involved with pro-Russian actions in both Finland and Estonia, including involvement with Nashi activity.

    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...eferendum-day/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirhond View Post
    Give a narrow definition, please.
    Citizen: a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized
    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary”

    H.L. Mencken

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