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    RB,
    Honestly, with your background you certainly realize that Putin has been doing this for over a decade

    Checked out those defunct defense contractors lately ?

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    ---it has to be/got to be those nasty American military advisors or worse Blackwater or Greystone crazy types---it cannot just be the Ukrainians alone defeating the irregulars as we felt they could not nor would not resist the "motherland".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    RB,
    Honestly, with your background you certainly realize that Putin has been doing this for over a decade

    Checked out those defunct defense contractors lately ?
    Stan---Putin has been doing this type of irregular warfare since his days as a KGB senior officer in the central KGB Dresden office----when the GDR was starting to unravel the KGB in Dresden began an undercover op to recruit "trustworthy" GDR citizens who could be put into government positions if the KGB/Soviet Army felt Honecker was going to far and needed to be "replaced"---sound familiar to the Crimea?

    Mielke got wind of the op and called Putin for a "serious" sit down and the KGB backed down---two current German federal states are still working their way those Stasi documents attempting to root out who had been recruited as you well know the FSB will never let go of an identified sub agent.

    All Defense Contractors are still doing relatively well since OCO funding is still flowing for AFG and now being diverted for the renewal in Iraq of ops.

    Basically Putin has gotten away with everything as that red line in the sand that both Obama and the EU leaders stated several weeks ago has never been fulfilled by the Russians---and yet nothing from the EU/US outside of words in support.

    The current irregular war in the eastern Ukraine will continue for another year or so at the guerrilla level as Putin is fully teed off about the Ukraine and EU Association agreements which he never wanted signed.

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    Outlaw:

    The current irregular war in the eastern Ukraine will continue for another year or so at the guerrilla level
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    Donetsk Peoples Republic has premier from Russia, PR specialist Borodai.

    Lugansk Peoples Republic has new premier from Russia since today, PR specialist Bashirov.

    http://translate.google.be/translate...24%26bih%3D425

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    kaur---here is a video link of more Russian T64s which apparently were driven over that "enhanced" Russian border security ---there is now about 1980 T64s still left in Russia that were to be destroyed so I guess more are coming.

    So much for Putin stating that he has no "influence" on the separatists--that is not the message being sent via the tanks as they appear with Russian flags.

    http://inforesist.org/en/a-convoy-of...asnodon-video/

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    Piontkovsky about Putin's choices in Ukraine.

    Putin has few good choices in Ukraine, Piontkovsky says.

    1. Backing off will offend Russian nationalists at home,

    2. and more open support of the secessionists will lead to more sanctions from the West.

    3. Consequently, he will likely try “a third variant,” one in which he will seek to entangle Kyiv in talks, “legitimize” the secessionists, and block Ukraine from “successfully developing according to the European model.”
    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.be/...s-no_8949.html

    The Kremlin is at present concentrating its efforts on pressing for a prolonged ceasefire and “substantial negotiations” between the rebels and Kyiv—an arrangement that would give Putin leverage to keep Kyiv and the unruly Russian nationalist rebels under control, while containing Western influence in Ukraine and possibly inserting wedges into the transatlantic connection between the U.S. and EU. Moscow has been apparently influencing the rebels to scale down their demands and offering some tactical concessions to Poroshenko, while trying to sideline the U.S. and engage European powers as intermediaries (EDM, June 26).
    http://www.jamestown.org/programs/ed...1#.U7bqYmIaySM

    Luhansk People's Republic Appoints Russian Lobbyist to Head Council of Ministers

    Bashirov joins a number of other representatives of the Russian business community with close ties to the self-proclaimed republics of Luhansk and Donetsk. Kremlin insider Konstantin Malofeyev, the founder of Marshall Capital investment fund, has been linked to Russian rebel leader Igor Strelkov, Donetsk People's Republic head Denis Pushilin and Alexander Borodai, prime minister of the self-proclaimed republic.
    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...rs/503015.html

    It seems that Putin is forcing his oligarhs to participate in his adventures. Once feudals had to give to king their soldiers, now oligarchs have to provide PR specialists
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    Fighters loyal to the Donetsk People’s Republic, the separatist movement seeking unification with Russia, have held the town since April, defying repeated Ukrainian attempts to retake it.

    In a disarmingly frank interview with Russian media on Friday, a visibly shaken Mr Girkin described the situation as desperate, and all but accused Russia of abandoning the rebels.



    “My soldiers are dying everyday...[The fighters] are people who consciously took up arms to defend their language and their culture, to defend Russia..[But] Russia does not want to help them unify with their people. It is very difficult to accept that in nearly three months in Slavyansk practically no real help has reached us....we really need.
    Link:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Slavyansk.html
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