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    Default Sistani OK on SOFA

    Iraq Head, Top Cleric Back 2011 Exit by U.S.
    Agreement Gives Pact Better Odds of Passing
    By Mary Beth Sheridan
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Sunday, November 16, 2008; A01

    BAGHDAD, Nov. 15 -- Iraq's prime minister and its most influential Shiite cleric have decided to support a security agreement that would allow U.S. troops to remain in the country until the end of 2011, sharply increasing its chances of passage in the Iraqi parliament, officials said Saturday.
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    A delegation of Shiite lawmakers and government officials met Saturday with Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani to review the latest changes to the agreement, and the cleric "gave the Iraqi side the green light to sign it," according to an official in Sistani's office who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Sistani's views carry great weight among members of the Shiite parties that dominate Iraq's government.

    Meanwhile, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has made clear his own support for the agreement and has received assurances from nearly all the parties in the cabinet that they would back it, said an adviser, Sami al-Askari.
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    The deputy parliament speaker, Khalid al-Attiya, said after leading a delegation to the city of Najaf to visit Sistani that "the Americans have responded positively on two important amendments. The first one is the Americans should withdraw from cities and suburbs on June 30, 2009, and the second one is that Americans should leave Iraq in 2011."
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...500679_pf.html

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    Default Iraqi Cabinet OK on SOFA 27-1

    New York Times
    Iraqi Cabinet Approves Security Pact With U.S.
    By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON
    Published: November 16, 2008

    BAGHDAD — The Iraqi cabinet voted overwhelmingly Sunday to approve the security agreement that sets the conditions for the Americans' continued presence in Iraq from Jan. 1 until the end of 2011.

    All but one of the 28 cabinet ministers who attended the two-and-a-half-hour session voted for the agreement and sent it to Parliament for consideration.....
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    The decision of the 37-member cabinet, essentially a microcosm of the Parliament, is expected to be a good indicator of whether the agreement will pass. The assembly has not yet announced the date of its vote, but it is scheduled to go into recess on Nov. 24.

    The draft approved Sunday requires coalition forces to withdraw from Iraqi cities and towns by the summer of 2009 and from the country by the end of 2011. ....
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/wo...in&oref=slogin

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    Default Two agreements were approved by Iraqi cabinet

    Interesting.

    Dabbagh: Iraq gov't endorsed two pacts
    Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:32:55 GMT

    The Iraqi government says the cabinet has approved two agreements with the United States not just one pact as many people presume.

    Government Spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh announced on Sunday that the Iraqi ministers, in fact endorsed two agreements with Washington, the Voices of Iraq reported on Sunday.

    According to the Iraqi official, one agreement would be related to the withdrawal of US troops from the country and the other one would determine the framework for political, economic and legal cooperation between the two sides.

    "The Iraqi cabinet also endorsed the draft agreement between the two countries which would lay the foundation stone for [the two sides'] cooperation and friendship in the fields of politics, diplomacy, culture, health, environmental issues and economy as well as technology, telecommunications and legal issues," he added. ......
    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail.aspx?id...onid=351020201

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    Default Oh me of little faith

    Didn't really think that this thing (or things, if there are two agreements) would go through. But, looks like reality may be something akin to what was being said by unnamed sources a couple of weeks ago.

    Iraqi parliament debates security pact
    Iraqi parliament gears up for vote on US security pact; Iranian official praises Iraqi Cabinet
    QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA
    AP News
    Nov 17, 2008 11:39 EST

    Iraqi lawmakers Monday began debate over a pact with the United States that will allow U.S. forces to remain for three more years, while an Iranian official close to that country's leadership praised the Iraqi Cabinet for approving the deal.

    The comments from Iran's judiciary chief marked the first time that the deal has met with clear-cut approval in neighboring Iran. Meanwhile, Syria, target of a deadly cross-border raid by U.S. forces in recent weeks, criticized the deal as virtual surrender to America.

    More than two-thirds of the 275-seat legislature attended Monday's session, raising confidence that parliament will be able to muster a quorum for the Nov. 24 vote. The session ended after the agreement's text was read to lawmakers, the first step to adopt legislation.

    Lawmakers are expected to meet again on Tuesday. ...
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    Senior al-Maliki aides said the deal's chances also were helped by Washington's favorable response to two changes that he requested last week.

    One removed ambiguous language that could have allowed U.S. forces not to adhere to a June 30 deadline for their withdrawal from cities to outlying bases, and another that prohibited raiding Iraqi homes during routine security sweeps without a court order. ....
    http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=456693

    and, another piece in the puzzle falling into place:

    Iran's judiciary chief lauds US-Iraqi pact
    By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
    Associated Press
    2008-11-17 09:23 PM

    A top Iranian official on Monday lauded the U.S-Iraqi security deal for the first time, saying the Iraqi government acted "very well" in approving the deal that allows American troops to stay in Iraq for three more years.

    The remark by Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi was the first sign of approval from Iran of the controversial deal that has long been lambasted by Tehran, where extremists within the hardline camp oppose it and many claim it would turn Iraq into a U.S. colony....
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    The Web site of Iran's state television on Monday quoted Shahroudi as saying he hoped the U.S. will withdraw troops from Iraq within the time specified in the deal.

    "The Iraqi government has done very well regarding this (security pact)," Shahroudi said. "We hope the outcome of (the deal) will be in favor of Islam and Iraqi sovereignty."

    Shahroudi is very close to Iran's top leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and his comments reflect thinking of conservatives within the ruling system, but not all hard-liners or President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. ....
    http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_....php?id=790754

    Ahmadinejad is not relevant here.

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    Default Coincidence or not ?

    This event may be coincidental; but it may be another little piece in the puzzle.

    From The Times
    November 19, 2008
    Britain re-establishes high-level intelligence links with Syria
    Richard Beeston, Catherine Philp and Oliver August

    Britain re-established high-level intelligence links with the Syrian authorities as David Miliband made his landmark visit to Damascus yesterday, according to senior Syrian officials.

    The move, first raised earlier this year at a meeting in New York between the Foreign Secretary and his Syrian counterpart, Walid Moualem, was a key objective of the Syrian visit. The newly revived intelligence relationship could be hugely beneficial to Britain. Syria is known to have one of the best intelligence-gathering systems in the Middle East, in particular in tracking the movements of Islamic extremists into Iraq and around the region. .....
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5181164.ece

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    Default Idle Threat or Not ?

    Iraq's parliament adjourned until tomorrow because of a Sadrist uproar. So ....

    US will withdraw troops if Iraq does not sign security deal (1st Lead)
    Middle East News
    Nov 19, 2008, 11:09 GMT

    Baghdad - The US will withdraw its troops from Iraq if the security pact between the two governments is not signed, Iraqi media quoted a senior United States official as saying Wednesday.

    'The United States will withdraw its forces from Iraq and refuse to approve an extension of the UN Security Council mandate if the treaty is not signed,' David Satterfield, senior advisor to the US secretary of state and the country's Iraq coordinator, told the semi- official al-Sabah newspaper.

    Satterfield met with Iraqi groups opposing the so-called Status of Forces Agreement to try to persuade them to support it, the newspaper reported.....
    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/ne...deal__1st_Lead

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    Default Views So Varied - Media Coverage

    Four articles that approach the Iraq SOFA from different angles.

    Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2008
    Why the U.S. blinked on its troop agreement with Iraq

    By Nancy A. Youssef | McClatchy Newspapers

    WASHINGTON — Although the Pentagon officially has welcomed the new accord on a U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, senior military officials are privately criticizing President Bush for giving Iraq more control over U.S. military operations for the next three years than the U.S. had ever contemplated.

    Officials said U.S. negotiators had failed to understand how the two countries' political timetables would force the U.S. to make major concessions that relinquish much of the control over U.S. forces in Iraq. They said President Bush gave in to Iraqi demands to avoid leaving the decisions to his successor, Barack Obama.
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/56182.html

    US-Iraq security pact may be in violation, Congress is told
    By Jenny Paul
    Globe Correspondent / November 20, 2008

    WASHINGTON - Passage of the US-Iraq security pact under the terms both countries' leaders have advocated could violate the constitutions of both countries, specialists told a congressional subcommittee yesterday.

    They instead pressed for an extension of the United Nations mandate authorizing US troop involvement in Iraq, which expires Dec. 31.

    American constitutional law scholar Oona Hathaway said she believes the Constitution requires Congress to also approve the agreement. The Bush administration has labeled the pact a "status of forces agreement," which can be implemented without congressional approval.

    But Hathaway said the US-Iraqi pact is more comprehensive than previous agreements because it allows US troops to engage in military operations and specifies timetables for military withdrawal.

    "These are unprecedented in a standard status of forces agreement, have never been part of a standard status of forces agreement, and extend in my view far beyond what the president can do without obtaining congressional approval," said Hathaway, a professor at the University of California at Berkeley's School of Law.
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...gress_is_told/

    US contractors lose immunity in Iraq security deal
    Matthew Lee, Associated Press Writer – Thu Nov 20, 6:22 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – Thousands of contractors, both private Americans and non-Iraqi foreigners working in key roles for the United States in Iraq, will lose immunity and be subject to Iraqi law under new security arrangements, Bush administration officials say.

    Pentagon and State Department officials notified companies that provide contract employees, like Blackwater Worldwide, Dyncorp International, Triple Canopy and KBR, of the changes on Thursday as the Iraqi parliament continues contentious debate on a security deal that will govern the presence of American forces in Iraq after January.

    That so-called Status of Forces, or SOFA, agreement, which gives the Iraqi government only limited jurisdiction over U.S. troops and Defense Department civilians, excludes Defense Department contractors, two officials said.

    The officials spoke to reporters on condition of anonymity after giving the same information to representatives of 172 invited contracting companies in two separate meetings earlier Thursday in Washington.

    "Contractors and grantees can no longer expect that they will enjoy the wide range of immunity from Iraqi law that has been in effect since 2003," a State Department official said, reading from the text of a statement presented to the contractors.

    Iraq will have "the primary right to exercise jurisdiction over" such workers, who are employed in various support roles for the U.S. military, including food service, transportation and sanitation, they said.

    The agreement does not mention State Department contractors, who mainly provide security for U.S. diplomats in Iraq, but their immunity is expected to be revoked by the Iraqi government after the agreement takes effect pending Iraqi parliamentary approval, the officials said.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081120/...ty_contractors

    Iraq parliament engulfed in protests over US pact
    In second stormy day in parliament, Iraqi lawmakers go through Iraqi-US security pact
    QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA
    AP News
    Nov 20, 2008 06:34 EST

    As opposition lawmakers shouted and pounded their desks in protest, Iraq's parliament on Thursday resumed deliberating a proposed security agreement with the United States that would allow American forces to stay there three more years.

    The parliament completed a second reading of the proposal, the last step prior to the opening of debate on the security pact ahead of the Nov. 24 vote.

    Lawmakers loyal to Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr sought to disrupt Thursday's reading as they did the previous day, when they scuffled with security guards after one of them aggressively approached the bench while a lawmaker from the ruling Shiite coalition was reading the text aloud.

    On Thursday, the Sadrists attempted to drown out the voice of the lawmaker reading it aloud. Shouting matches later ensued, with Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani barely able to control the chaos in the 275-seat chamber.

    But unlike Wednesday, there were no scuffles among lawmakers and orderly proceedings continued.
    http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=460485

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    All of this may dissolve into a farce (more of a farce ?); but, something has to be in place by 31 Dec.

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