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    Recently found this interesting report (link below) by the New America Foundation regarding ideas to change the culture of Pentagon contacting. Nothing drastically new per se, but some interesting thoughts and facts are included.

    New America Foundation- www.newamerica.net

    Report on Pentagon Contacting Culture-http://www.newamerica.net/files/Chan...ontracting.pdf

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    I've got lots of problems with that paper, but I'll just choose one...

    All second lieutenants should be instructed in the role of contractors on the battlefield and their role in managing those contractors. They should learn how to deal with specific problems that may arise during the lifecycle of a contract, with particular focus on the prevention of contractor fraud, waste, and abuse.
    This strikes me as absurd on its face. I think the authors are either unaware - or once knew but forgot - of the level of understanding that most 2LTs have about the workings of the military, when in OBC. It is not that 2LTs are dumb or unteachable, but there is a certain level of experience that is needed before one understands administrative details. My IOBC class had 250 2LTs and not one of us understood what on Earth was being taught to us during our 3 days of ULLS training. We simply had no experience to put it in context. Quite frankly, I did not understand it until I was a few months into my XO job. I can quite easily visualize the same blank stares from a sea of 2LTs during a 1-hour, 3-hour, or 3-day period of instruction on contractors on the battlefield.

    While the nature of contractor interaction may be a bit of a stretch for a 2LT fresh out of college to relate to, the fraud, waste, and abuse issue seems to be so simple as to not need a specific focus to relate it to any particular topic, such as contractors. I share the authors' concern about fraud, waste, and abuse, but I did not need a period of instruction regarding contractors to identify or report it (to no avail). A small dose of common sense was sufficient for me to recognize that places like LSA Anaconda and the "Green Zone" are large monuments to fraud, waste, and abuse, perpetrated by contractors, but done so at the direction of, and with the blessings of, the military. If you want to crack down on fraud, waste, and abuse, then leaders need to take basic leadership training more seriously. It is a simple issue of leadership, or lack thereof, when you've got fraud, waste, and abuse all around you and you're not reporting it. People already know that it is wrong - they don't need a course about contractors to remind them of it. They need some kind of impetus - perhaps a boot - to fix it, rather than walking past the deficiencies, walking into the deficiencies, and then getting a giant heap of Baskin Robbins ice cream AT the deficiency.

    The folks who wrote this paper seem to have gotten so focused on their issue that they convinced themselves that the issue is of a much more pressing and dire need than it really is, leading them to make such recommendations as creating new staff billets from the Joint Chiefs all the way down to the battalion level and creating new training requirements from OBC, onward. They do acknowledge that this sounds rather extreme, but they do a weak job, in my opinion, of justifying why it should nonetheless be implemented. My impression is that the reader is expected to share their level of concern and, therefore, to also support their recommendations, which are only justified by the perceived urgency of the problem, rather than by a clear explanation of why the recommendations are necessary.
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    Default Well Said

    As a guy looking to lateral move out of academia into defense contracting in FCS, I think your words speak volumes. This should be an interesting adventure when the interviews start!

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    P.S. I'm a new registrant here, you're my first posted reply. Merry Christmas, have a beer....

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    Default Welcome aboard.

    Good luck on that switch. Why not go here LINK and scroll up a few comments to get an idea what others have said and then tell us a little about your background and self. Breaks the ice well...

    Again welcome.

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    Thanks for helping jcustis out on the other thread...

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    Default Thanks for the insight

    Schmedlap - I appreciate your perspective regarding the suggestion of adding contractor-management specific training to officer PME. Do you think the addition of a "contracting career field" will have any positive impact on the situation, or would this just be adding additional layers of bureaucracy in uniform? I strongly agree with your statements regarding the tone of the argument (urgency vs. necessity.) May I inquire as to what other problems you have with the paper?

    Anyone care to comment on any of the other proposals? Such as the feasibility of transitioning away from security contractors to the DSS and MPs and the proposal to use the FBI as an enforcement arm vs. CID, OSI, etc?

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    Default I can foresee some problems with their recommendations.

    On the use of DSS and MPs for security: DSS employees are civil service, once hired they are almost impossible to get rid of and Congress does not like to cut spaces; thus given a relaxed security requirement -- which will occur (as everything goes in cycles) -- the USG would have yo pay for far more security than it needed. MPs could not be used in many locales due to their military affiliation and the Army is generally short of MPs in any event. The benefit of contractors is that their numbers can be swelled to meet a need and those numbers can be reduced when that need disappears.

    They suggest:
    "Move away from reliance on the flawed and widely misunderstood term “inherently governmental” in deciding how and when to use private contractors, and instead focus on the issue of core competencies and mission success..."
    Excellent idea. But.
    "...Congress should identify red-lined activities that must not be outsourced and require the military to maintain a “resident capacity” for any function it outsources, particularly as it relates to the ability to conduct proper contractual oversight.
    Congress is not best suited to do that; they have to and will respond to lobbyists and vested interests.

    The services investigatory arms, CID, ONI, OSI and DoD already have contract audit, complinace and investigatory powers, they generally work well, understand the requirements and they are able to call on the FBI when needed. The FBI does some things well, some not at all well. It has a bad habit of overdoing investigations; more importantly, it has plenty on its plate right now plus it does not know or understand the environment or requiremnts as an in-house organ does. I could make a strong case for the fact that it is doing many more things than it should be doing but that is irrlevant -- it has been tasked to do them. I guess the thing that strikes me about this is the old saw; "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." This aspect is not broken, the current system works.

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    CALL just put out Handbook-08-47 Deployed COR on unlimited public distribution. You can download a copy of it here within the next couple of days (I asked HQs to put a download link up for it along with the other public products that are listed there for download)


    Best

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    Default What if it is perceived by policy makers to be broken?

    Ken - Your analysis regarding the use of DSS/MP is spot on. (Though a minor correction, DSS is largely foreign service.) My question is whether or not political backlash against PMCs will make their continued use unfeasible, despite the cost efficiency? If memory serves correct, Sen. Clinton wished to abolish their use all together, and she appears to be the current front runner for the Sec. State gig.

    I found it curious that the FBI was suggested vs improved capability of DoD, NCIS, CID, OSI, etc. Was the suggestion of increasing FBI capability in this area driven out of ignorance of DoD capabilities or was it intentional?

    I appreciate the feedback from everyone. Though I have as of yet no experience related to any of this, I am currently in the pipeline with one of the above listed acronyms and have been told it is an important issue to familiarize myself with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidvsTheWorld View Post
    Ken - Your analysis regarding the use of DSS/MP is spot on. (Though a minor correction, DSS is largely foreign service.)
    it is a mix; all government employees so the premise of once hired = around for years, needed or not, still holds.
    My question is whether or not political backlash against PMCs will make their continued use unfeasible, despite the cost efficiency? If memory serves correct, Sen. Clinton wished to abolish their use all together, and she appears to be the current front runner for the Sec. State gig.
    Hard to say; the Democrats will want to maximize the governmental aspect (to include adding Union members as in AFGE and AFSA); who knows what the Republicans will / would do. Could go either way...
    I found it curious that the FBI was suggested vs improved capability of DoD, NCIS, CID, OSI, etc. Was the suggestion of increasing FBI capability in this area driven out of ignorance of DoD capabilities or was it intentional?
    I suspect some of both with more emphasis on the latter as a desired increase in 'civilian' oversight.

    Good luck...
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    Default Not Not Picking

    Mr. White - I apologize if it appeared as if I were nit picking. In fact, the point I was attempting to make in stating much of DSS is foreign service is that it would possibly be even more difficult to downsize than if they were civil service. I imagine eliminating foreign service positions (FSOs or not) is about as attractive and easy for State as it is for the AF to cut pilot slots.

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