Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 23 of 23

Thread: Shift in AF flight culture?

  1. #21
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008



    The Air Force is not ignoring those - quite the opposite - it's putting in research dollars into both. Passive radar has been "here" since the 1930's. It certainly shows promise but will probably be limited to early warning uses given its limitations. EO is certainly a concern (more aircraft are downed by EO than radar systems), but there are limitations imposed by physics there as well.

  2. #22
    Council Member carl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Denver on occasion


    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    There is a problem that the USAF seems to want to ignore in the shape of passive radar and networked electro-optics.

    Passive radar is here now and defeats stealth to a good enough degree to get a cheap IR seeker in the same space (Lock on long after launch). It is not even that expensive or complex. Factor in the strides being made in electro-optics and remote gun laying and F22 may well get shot down or badly damaged by an air bursting 155mm artillery round. Big UAVs are basically dead.

    At the very best, such systems will force expensive aircraft to stay fast and high.

    The future of airpower is actually up for grabs and the picture is not that full of roses!
    Wilf: I would think that a supercruising high flyer like the F-22 would have a better chance than anything else. It takes a while for a shell to get up to 65,000 feet and if you change course just a little bit... Flat out performance is helpful.

    It seems that over the decades, the drill has been to go in low then it changes to high then back again. Maybe high is back.

    Are there any 155 mm. anti-aircraft guns out there? I am not trying to be smart, I just don't know.
    "We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again." Gen. Nathanael Greene

  3. #23
    Council Member William F. Owen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    The State of Partachia, at the eastern end of the Mediterranean


    Quote Originally Posted by carl View Post
    Are there any 155 mm. anti-aircraft guns out there? I am not trying to be smart, I just don't know.
    There are not, thought the Soviets had AA guns thta could reach 40,000ft in the 1950's. Basically any turret mounted 155mm can be modified for the AA role, so M-109 is a starting point.
    Infinity Journal "I don't care if this works in practice. I want to see it work in theory!"

    - The job of the British Army out here is to kill or capture Communist Terrorists in Malaya.
    - If we can double the ratio of kills per contact, we will soon put an end to the shooting in Malaya.
    Sir Gerald Templer, foreword to the "Conduct of Anti-Terrorist Operations in Malaya," 1958 Edition

Similar Threads

  1. Changing the Organizational Culture
    By SWJED in forum Media, Information & Cyber Warriors
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 03-22-2008, 06:16 PM
  2. Will the Trigger-Puller shift mission?
    By Abu Suleyman in forum Trigger Puller
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-13-2007, 03:53 PM
  3. COIN and popular culture
    By Rex Brynen in forum RFIs & Members' Projects
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 09-17-2007, 03:20 PM
  4. Counterinsurgency Paradigm Shift in Iraq
    By SWJED in forum Who is Fighting Whom? How and Why?
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-24-2007, 06:39 AM


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts