Quote Originally Posted by Rank amateur View Post
OK, then to completely disagree with Wilf, my concern would be that if everything depends on how you define things, it might be hard to gain a lot of insight..
Whenever approaching any study such as this definitions do tend to effect what you see, that however doesn't represent the truth of what they are.

Given that one approaches the subject in such a manner as to tracing the roots and from there following up the tree this could turn out to be very insightful



Quote Originally Posted by Rank amateur View Post
To carry it further, if you're carrying an assault rifle, no matter what happens, some people will never believe it was voluntary.
While perhaps true that nonetheless fails to prove that it wasn't voluntary.

Lots and lots of "some people" out there. Never gonna please em all