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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    By controlling the money supply the Government can pay for the programs that will benefit the country(population) by following the greatest Strategic Plan ever written.

    The 6 core missions of the government....Americanism are listed in the Preamble to our Strategic Plan...Uh I mean Constitution.

    1-Form a more perfect Union
    2-Establish Justice
    3-Insure Domestic Tranquility
    4-Provide for the Common Defense
    5-Promote the General Welfare
    6-Secure the blessings of Liberty for ourselves and Future Generations
    I would argue that those 6 core missions have been accomplished. Our country functions on a rule of law, it is safe from internal and external threats, we've got a high standard of living - even our underclass - and we're free. Returning to my earlier point - what the people have chosen to do with these blessings is squander them with a long series of bad choices. This economic nutroll wasn't caused by mishandling of the money supply. It was caused by widespread unethical conduct. How one handles the money supply has nothing to do with whether people will behave ethically and responsibly in their pursuit of that money.

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    fives says 'promote' -- not 'provide' -- and that liberty includes the right to be stupid. Thus, even Congress and all the Politicians get a bye...

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    Liberty includes the right to be stupid, so long as that stupidity does not hurt anyone else. So, "Congress and all the Politicians" do not get a free pass in all cases - nor do judges, lawyers and retired CSMs.

    PS: I'm glad someone is citing the Constitution as our basic plan - good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmm99 View Post
    Liberty includes the right to be stupid, so long as that stupidity does not hurt anyone else...
    Based on daily observation over the years, it appears more ignored than heeded by numbers of our fellow citizens and certainly by the majority of our Politicians.
    ...So, "Congress and all the Politicians" do not get a free pass in all cases - nor do judges, lawyers and retired CSMs.
    No one ever gets a free pass IMO -- a 'bye' OTOH, I believe, means that one gets to advance to the next or another round / attempt with outplaying or being penalized.

    Thus IMO everyone, even the Lawyers, gets the proverbial three strikes...

    Minor nit-noid correction; not a CSM, there seemed to be some silly concern over early Courts Martial -- yes, that is the plural -- that precluded my attaining that august rank. Still, I did get to do the job sans the title in two Battalions and Two Brigades, one each in both peacetime and combat. Leading me to conclude that Bde CSMs (much less those in the upper echelons) were probably not totally necessary. So just plain old vanilla SGM -- with much time in grade...
    PS: I'm glad someone is citing the Constitution as our basic plan - good job.
    Me too. I particularly enjoy that when it is also correctly used. Not that Slapout misused it but others sure do...

    Congress, for example, does not even seem to be aware of it's existence...

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    Thanks again for all your posts and particularly the legal updates. They're more appreciated than you may know.

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    Default Hey Ken, thanks for the clarification ...

    Thou shalt now and forever be The SGM - despite your plural CsM.

    Seriously, on stupidity and damage to others, there should not be either a free pass or a "bye", even from the first round. What should be is not necessarily what is - that I have to admit.

    Also thanks for this:

    from Ken
    Thanks again for all your posts and particularly the legal updates. They're more appreciated than you may know.
    Slogging through the detainee, and associated cases, has been a learning experience for me (and hopefully for others here, as well).

    And, bye the way, we managed to bye out of the first round of playoffs. So, we had to face off Mon nite against ourselves. Todd (my retired E-7 sans CsM) and I held the table for two hours - so, a good nite for the good guys.

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    Perhaps this will help explain about banks and money.

    http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmedlap View Post
    Our country functions on a rule of law, it is safe from internal and external threats, we've got a high standard of living - even our underclass - and we're free.
    I just don't see how you can say that.....have you read what has been happening along the border with Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    I just don't see how you can say that.....have you read what has been happening along the border with Mexico.
    this:
    Since the mid-19th century, the United States has frequently employed the US Army on its southern border to perform various roles in support of the Nation—from outright war, to patrolling the border, to chasing bandits while securing persons and property on both sides of the border, and most recently to supporting civil law enforcement and antidrug efforts.
    LINK

    Two very different nations that share a border that's been bloody for its entire existence. Yes, things are different today -- but not really all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    I just don't see how you can say that.....have you read what has been happening along the border with Mexico.
    Yes. And even judging by the worst-case scenario, most pessimistic reports, this country is pretty darn safe. And, even if it weren't, what on Earth does that have to do with the money supply? Even if I were to concede your point, it would still bolster my argument - that we've used the luxury of prosperity, safety, security, and stability to generate more leisure time with which to ponder bad ideas, implement them, and raise an entire generation of morons who have no concept of personal responsibility or foresight. Any real or imagined security threat on the Mexican border that has been discussed of late is the result of the drug trade (Americans who demand narcotics because they don't give a damn about our laws), willfully lax immigration enforcement (from elected officials pursuing a political strategies to shore up hispanic voters), and multicultural BS (Americans with too much education, free time, and bad ideas).

    I'm not knocking your concept of revising monetary policy. I think you're going too far in selling it. It is not the cure for most, many, or even a significant number of our ills. The best monetary and economic policies matched with the wisest financial regulations and system of incentives will still be useless if the population whom those policies, regulations, and incentives are directed towards are a fundamentally depraved people. So long as people care about me and mine more than right and wrong, we're a mile down #### creek, with a giant hole in the middle of the canoe, and no paddle or paper. Immoral people cannot be governed. They must be coerced and imprisoned or rehabilitated and socialized. Given the rate at which we're throwing people in jail, I fear that the former will be our medicine of choice. On the other hand, maybe this economic "crisis" will be a good thing because it will influence more people to choose the latter.

    That is why I continue to see this as a moment of opportunity - not for monetary or regulatory reform so much as for moral reform that will hopefully occur within each person's thick skull, as they slowly realize that they've been behaving in a manner that is not only socially destructive, but self-destructive.

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    Default Very good historical link, Ken ....

    although its 100+ pages of US-Mexican military encounters are a bit of a slog. I didn't slog through it today - been there, done that - and I think I cited it elsewhere (re: treaty law, perhaps).

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    Schmedlap, it's is not my idea, it has been around for some time, starting with the Constitution, it is just that people are starting to question the whole idea of who we are paying our money to and why do we have to do it. I have attached a link to a detailed explanation on monetary reform and the effects it can have on the economy. I agree with you that no monetary policy will correct or fix bad people, but while we are figuring out what to do with them I see no need for me to pay private bankers personal profits with my tax dollars, which in effect means I get to pay the bill twice, once to the government and then a certain cut (interest) to the Talli-Banksters.

    http://www.themoneymasters.com/printable-mra.htm

    I also disagree on mission accomplishment of the 6 core missions. As long as the US exists they are likely to be enduring missions, not ones that have a stopping point only continuous progress toward the goal of a safer, better and more prosperous country for now and in the future.

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    Latest interview with James Galbraith at Truthout magazine on the state of the economy....how it was a planned criminal event and what should be done.

    http://www.truthout.org/050609J

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    Default "Temble,Banks,Tremble"...Latest from Galbraith

    Latest from James Galbraith on how to fix the Economy....1st put the Tal-Banksters in jail (Justice) and then restore by using modified Keynesian economics. Some really good stuff in here about how the economy has NOT been fixed and what we need to do about it. Galbraith is one of the few Economist with an almost perfect record of economic analysis and what is going to happen.

    http://www.tnr.com/article/economy/7...emble?page=0,0

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