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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob's World View Post
    First thing we need to do is determine what is "victory" for the US in this country in terms of our national interests (i.e. "victory" for the Afghans may be a very different thing, and good on them for that. We just don't need to confuse their victory for our victory and actually put our self at risk of a strategic setback because we pushed for the wrong end zone down at the operational level).
    I hear that phrase ("we need to define 'victory'") or variants of it a lot, along with the caveat that victory for the US may not coincide with the host population's idea of the preferred end state. I maybe wrong here, but I thought it clear from the outset that drying up Af-Pak of the people, means and/or will to source terrorist attacks against the West was the Coalition's overriding objective. I've never seen a survey indicating that Western electorates really gave a rat's behind about anything else. Even if there the aspirations of the host populations--shifting they may be--mismatched with all other concerns eminating from our great centers of strategic thought, doesn't achieving that one goal mean...well...the Coalition wins?
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    Default Update and talking to the Taliban

    What is going on? A short BBC News clip, note interview with ex-Taliban Amabassador to Pakistan at the end, commenting on talking to the Taliban: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8119110.stm

    Apologies for those who cannot view.

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    Default Border situation summary

    A review of the provinces on either side of the Durand Line (no video clips) and a useful summary: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7601748.stm

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    Default Reflections on the war

    A long (73 mins) sound only interview of the ex-CIA Station Chief in Kabul, thirty years ago, which is interesting and not listened yet to fully: http://www.electricpolitics.com/podc...or_bazaar.html

    A summary appears in this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/graham..._b_201355.html

    Note he is multi-lingual (a point that has appeared here before) and has visited Pakistan more recently with RAND (no details).

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    Default It's difficult and the West will leave

    A non-Western contact having visited Kabul recently observed that:

    a) The war was increasingly difficult and the Taliban could just wait for the Western presence to end;
    b) No-one in Kabul, especially Afghans, thought the West would stay and the latest adjustments were an exit strategy. The one exception a Russian whose views was a new US encirclement strategy.

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    Default Follow The Energy,The Money, And The Map?

    Have know idea how accurate this is, but very disturbing if true.


    http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?o...4&jumival=3511

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    Default Hard fight as Taliban stand & fight

    Amidst all the media reporting on USMC operations in South Helmand, the link is a BBC report, with five mins video, on the UK operation and note the Taliban are not retreating, whatever firepower is delivered: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8142229.stm

    (Apologies if clip will not work).

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