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    The Akula is a very good sub which we already knew but this further confirms that.

    If we didn't know the boat sailed from Russia, crossed the Atlantic and cruised around the Caribbean for a month, how did we know that it left and how did we know it was there for a month?
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    Afaik some other source suggested that the Russians were on sightseeing tour, taking enough periscope photos as souvenirs.

    Periscope shot souvenirs are apparently popular among sub drivers.

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    I have another question for people who know about these things. Does this mean SOSUS isn't very useful anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carl View Post
    I have another question for people who know about these things. Does this mean SOSUS isn't very useful anymore?
    Col. MacGregor (the Army Colonel Tank Commander) has been hired by the US Navy to basically re-do the whole underwater detection sensor network. So I think SOSUS is going to get a big upgrade so UUAV (Underwater Unmanned Attack Vehicles) can be used.

    I had an article I had saved about a Soviet Missile launching sub crusing the Gulf Of Mexico undetectedI was going to post but I am not sure what I did with it but it is out there in cyber-space somewhere.

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    One of the distinguishing characteristics of Vladimir Putin’s presidency has been his commitment to revitalizing Russia’s military. Putin, who has noted that Russia’s perceived weakness makes it vulnerable to external pressure and internal disruption, is pushing for increased funding to transform the Russian armed forces from the debilitated remnants inherited from the old Soviet superpower military machine into a smaller, but more modern, mobile, technologically advanced and capable twenty-first century force.
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    What Putin wants may not be what Putin gets. In order to get where he says they want to go they would have to, a. overcome a demographic problem of historic magnitude, b. transform the gov into something other than a kleptocracy, c. develop an economy that can do something other than mine and sell the product and d. actually exert full control over their nation, right now they don't dare draft men from Chechnya.

    None of this is to say they can't make trouble over the years. And none of it is to say we should ignore them, but Putin's dream of returning to the days of the Russian colossus will remain a dream unless things at home get fixed. My opinion anyway.
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    Swedish FOI publication "Russian Military Capability in a Ten-Year Perspective - 2013"

    http://foi.se/ReportFiles/foir_3734.pdf

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