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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian forces in Crimea practice putting down "illegal armed formations," i.e. "little green men."
    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2867973

    Seem to be practicing against "themselves"....
    What started as an airborne troop snap exercise seems to be growing in size.....

    We've seen hints from sources that Russian 'snap' exercise in/near #Crimea will grow from 12k to 120k troops + civilians (like Kavkaz 2016)

    IF this is in fact correct THEN it should have been registered with OSCE and foreign observers invited to watch...which was not done....and will not be done...

    THIS might in fact explain the extensive US/UK recce flights being currently heavily conducted over Germany and the Baltic....

    This is the airborne troop exercise that triggered this snap exercise....

    RIA: In Crimea, started the paratroopers exercises involving the Black Sea Fleet and videoconferencing
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170320/1490370965.html#
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    What started as an airborne troop snap exercise seems to be growing in size.....

    We've seen hints from sources that Russian 'snap' exercise in/near #Crimea will grow from 12k to 120k troops + civilians (like Kavkaz 2016)

    IF this is in fact correct THEN it should have been registered with OSCE and foreign observers invited to watch...which was not done....and will not be done...

    THIS might in fact explain the extensive US/UK recce flights being currently heavily conducted over Germany and the Baltic....

    This is the airborne troop exercise that triggered this snap exercise....

    RIA: In Crimea, started the paratroopers exercises involving the Black Sea Fleet and videoconferencing
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20170320/1490370965.html#
    Former NATO SACEUR @PMBreedlove warned of danger: Russian 'snap' exercise turning into full-scale military operation

    RUSSIA: Unprecedentedly large drills of Airborne/Aerospace Forces & Black Sea Fleet begin in Crimea - @tassagency_en
    http://tass.com/defense/936406
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Former NATO SACEUR @PMBreedlove warned of danger: Russian 'snap' exercise turning into full-scale military operation

    RUSSIA: Unprecedentedly large drills of Airborne/Aerospace Forces & Black Sea Fleet begin in Crimea - @tassagency_en
    http://tass.com/defense/936406
    Lukashenko ups the Russia trolling to dangerous levels by suggesting NATO be allowed to observe Russian and Belarusian training exercises

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    Airborne troops + large landing ship drills tomorrow

    2S4 Tulips and 2S7 Pions exercising hitting hardened enemy underground fortifications.
    Now where'd you find such static positions?
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    We're 'expecting' a massive Russian snap exercise later this year involving 120-180k between 1st Tank, 20th CAA and 8th CAA east of Ukraine
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    Russian navy upgrades multi-purpose submarines (Proj. 971 and 949)
    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/se...ose-submarines

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    Default Shoigu Promotes Russia’s ‘Effective Army’ Plans to 2025

    From The Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/program/shoigu...my-plans-2025/

    By Roger McDermott:

    Russia’s Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has outlined the country’s military modernization achievements in the context of the ongoing drafting and internal discussion regarding the new State Armaments Program to 2025 (Gosudarstvennaya Programma Vooruzheniya—GPV). Shoigu put forward a vision of greatly enhanced military capabilities, but he has moved beyond simply promising more military hardware and modern systems. Rather, he indicated that, over the next decade, Russia would invest in modernizing and expanding military infrastructure. Despite the country’s economic challenges, it appears that state planning will not downgrade defense spending in favor of other aspects of governmental budgeting. As the drafting of the GPV to 2025 moves into its final stages, following considerable delay, the underlying message is greater emphasis on force multipliers linked to high-technology assets and further expansion of infrastructure (Moskovskiy Komsomolets, April 21).

    The GPV to 2025 experienced numerous delays linked to concern over spending levels following the precedent set by the GPV to 2020—which hiked expenditures to 19.3 trillion rubles ($346 billion). The recent suspended animation for the new GPV reflects divisions between the defense and finance ministries (see EDM, September 15, 2016; October 6, 2016), domestic fears that the state cannot afford to continue such investment levels in national defense, as well as a number of related economic and security factors. This general background stems from the downturn in the Russian economy that resulted from declining global oil prices, sanctions imposed on Russia following the annexation of Crimea (with its knock-on impact based on losing access to the Ukrainian defense industry), and the ensuing dispute between the defense and finance ministry. Amidst the GPV drafting process, Russia has been involved in the conflict in Donbas, it deployed forces to the Syrian conflict, and it faces an increasing stand-off with the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). This has meant additional recalibration of the requirements for the GPV to 2025; in other words, the delays are about politics more than economics (see EDM, March 14). The lengthy process will, therefore, only see its final resolution in summer of 2017, with governmental approval scheduled in the fall.

    The Russian defense minister stands at the forefront of defending the interests of the military against the arguments by officials in the finance ministry. And Shoigu has used multiple platforms to advance the cause of maintaining realistic levels of defense spending to successfully modernize the Armed Forces. One such platform is the regular meetings of the defense ministry’s collegium. Normally, the collegium has been used to update officials as well as representatives of government bodies, the defense industry, and various interested organizations on the progress made in modernizing the military. But on April 21, Shoigu addressed this body with an eye toward longer-term financial issues. Specifically, he spoke about the completion of state tests of the Admiral Gorshkov frigate, the plan for the Northern Fleet to 2020, the development of ground-based space infrastructure for the Armed Forces, the GPV to 2025, and the success of the new Military Police (Mil.ru, April 21).

    Shoigu certainly tried to impress his audience with a number of apposite military statistics to support the theme that the modernization remains highly relevant for Russia: these ranged from numbers of newly formed units to reporting on advances in contract personnel levels. According to Shoigu, earlier this month, the 14th Army Corps was created. The number of contract personnel serving in the Navy reached “95 percent,” with the Ground Forces boosted by 100 percent contract manning of all battalion tactical groups. He also mentioned the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and its use in combat operations in Syria. Shoigu noted the first combat use of Russian cruise missiles and said the Navy will be further strengthened by introducing greater numbers of these precision-strike systems. Turning to the GPV to 2025, Shoigu admitted likely budgetary constraints compelling “capital construction,” but he declared that spending will continue to introduce new weaponry and equipment and develop military infrastructure. This effort will involve strengthening the nuclear triad, building more infrastructure, and laying 24,000 kilometers of fiber-optic communication lines. Regarding the latter, he confirmed that the future Russian Army will depend on more high-technology assets and approaches to modern warfare (Mil.ru, April 21).

    These themes and their fiscal aspects were explored during an extensive interview by Deputy Defense Minister Tatyana Shevtsova in Voyenno Promyshlennyy Kuryer. “Sequestration” and “budgetary constraints” were much in evidence, but Shevtsova delivered a reassuring message based upon improved planning and greater efficiency in defense planning. In discussing defense sequestration, Shevtsova highlighted the important role played by forming the budget to fulfil the development plans for the Armed Forces, enhancing financial efficiency to implement the “effective army program,” and monitoring the use of the funds to carry out the state defense order. However, the use of monitoring mechanisms and a range of measures to improve the efficiency of fiscal planning and implementation seem to offset any negative impact of small levels of sequestration (Voyenno Promyshlennyy Kuryer, April 19).

    Such efficiency themes in Shevtsova’s interview are consistent with many of Shoigu’s public statements, lending credibility to the idea that future defense spending will support ongoing transformation toward a more high-tech force capability. Indeed, given Russia’s positive assessment of its use of cruise missile systems in Syria, the defense ministry has swung behind investing in large numbers of precision-strike systems in the future. Moreover, it has raised the prospect that this will also reduce reliance upon Russia’s nuclear deterrence (Voyenno Promyshlennyy Kuryer, April 19).

    Shoigu’s comments also suggest more airfields will be built to support long-range aviation. Naval infrastructure will be similarly boosted. And the Russian military will build greater numbers of precision-strike systems for air and coastal defense as well as to provide more effective offensive capabilities. No outward evidence exists that belt tightening will mitigate Russia’s existing aspirations to build a formidable military capability to meet modern challenges (Lenta.ru, TASS, April 21).

    Something quite significant has changed in Russian defense planning and in smoothing out the financial planning features of the state arms procurement agenda; it stems from correcting the historical defense planning deficiency rooted in the absence of military statistics. The defense ministry is in the early stages of correcting this weakness, allowing much greater confidence in planning cycles, spending efficiencies, and monitoring progress in implementing modernization programs. Moscow is becoming smarter in prudent defense spending and planning, with implications for a move away from the former Soviet legacy force and toward a credible and usable force in the future.

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    Putin's ambitions in the high North—How selfies exposed #Russia's Artic bases. Latest by @Benimmo & @MaksCzuperski:
    https://medium.com/dfrlab/selfies-ex...ae-1493192868#

    Ah...that Russian Opsec will get them every time.... it seems they have never learned anything from eastern Ukraine and Syria....

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    TASS: Military and industry discussed the creation of missiles of increased range of "Iskander-M"
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4266086#

    Russians are talking about direct and open INF treaty violation here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    TASS: Military and industry discussed the creation of missiles of increased range of "Iskander-M"
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4266086#

    Russians are talking about direct and open INF treaty violation here.
    On the contrary, the Iskander-M's range can be improved while adhering to the INF Treaty. The discussion also revolved around non-range qualitative improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    On the contrary, the Iskander-M's range can be improved while adhering to the INF Treaty. The discussion also revolved around non-range qualitative improvements.
    Depends on exactly what improvements are made to the engine and fuel....one has to wait for the test firings...the question is the last time for another cruise missile test firing the US did not catch the actual firing ....and had to wait until they could clearly get an actual measurement.....which took time
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Depends on exactly what improvements are made to the engine and fuel....
    If it "depends" then why make the leap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    If it "depends" then why make the leap?
    Here is why you never get anything...in the world of cyber security that I work in...the internet is driven by IEEE engineering standards and protocols the language of how things talk to and act with each other....

    BUT never think engineering laws applies to everything....when one runs into a major hack and or virus and or a misbehaving internet or network...and a ton of Cisco CCIE's stand around discussing and or whiteboarding the problems...in the end ...mantra "it depends" comes up...meaning depending on what variable you set determines the outcome...you in fact might be seeing.

    The military uses the terms "2nd, 3rd or 4th order of effects after a COA has been decided on"....

    You can pick which mantra fits your needs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    On the contrary, the Iskander-M's range can be improved while adhering to the INF Treaty. The discussion also revolved around non-range qualitative improvements.
    Those missiles have certainly caused considerable havoc in Yemen for Saudi/UAE forces, somewhere around 500 fatalities based on reports, including some ugly hits of CPs/HQs.

    The Russians have developed a lot of formidable weapon system designs on paper that don't make the necessary leap to positive feedback from end users.

    But they certainly seem to have done a solid job with that SS-21 Iskander.

    And I would guess there could be potential to develop flight profiles that could make interception a real challenge(at drastically reduced range I assume).

    It seems like we are finally living the 1950's sci-fi future of rockets fighting rockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    Those missiles have certainly caused considerable havoc in Yemen for Saudi/UAE forces, somewhere around 500 fatalities based on reports, including some ugly hits of CPs/HQs.

    The Russians have developed a lot of formidable weapon system designs on paper that don't make the necessary leap to positive feedback from end users.

    But they certainly seem to have done a solid job with that SS-21 Iskander.

    And I would guess there could be potential to develop flight profiles that could make interception a real challenge(at drastically reduced range I assume).

    It seems like we are finally living the 1950's sci-fi future of rockets fighting rockets.
    Flagg,

    The ballistic missiles used in Yemen are at best Tochkas, and older export variants at that.

    See here from Tom Cooper at War is Boring:

    http://warisboring.com/how-did-the-h...sile-at-mecca/

    https://medium.com/war-is-boring/muc...g-fe178ffbc973

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    Report: Russia may have accidentally revealed new military satellites
    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/...ry-satellites#

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    The author - Michael Kofman - has published in WoTR, in February 2017 a highly interesting 'dissection' of the Russian military strategy in Ukraine and Syria .

    To make things even more interesting, that one is strikingly similar to conclusions from discussions on the Russian strategy and tactics in Syria we've had on the ACIG.info forum back in late 2015 (requires registration to read): VKS (Russian Air Force) - Doctrine and Tactics.
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    Check out
    Syria War: Who are Russia's Shadowy Wagner Mercenaries?
    http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...ad.php?t=26631
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    Russia's new hypersonic Sarmat ICBM, which is capable of overcoming missile defense systems, has completed tests and is a "breakthrough" for the country's missile program, according to President Vladimir Putin.

    The announcement was made during Putin's annual address to Russia's Federal Assembly, and was accompanied by a video showcasing the missile's capabilities. Sarmat is capable of outmanoeuvring modern missile defense systems, he said.
    The Sarmat will replace the aging but reliable Soviet-era R-36M2 Voevoda (SS-18 Satan) ICBMs.
    Last week, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that the new missile “can rip [US] air defenses apart," adding that "at the moment [the US defense shield] poses no serious military threat to us, except for provocations."
    https://www.rt.com/news/420157-russi...personic-icbm/


    Russia has developed a new cruise missile that is invincible, according to President Vladimir Putin.
    Mr Putin made the revelation as he laid out his key policies for a fourth presidential term, ahead of an election he is expected to win in 17 days' time.
    He showcased a range of new weapons, including the cruise missile that could "reach anywhere in the world".
    Using video presentations, he said the missile could not be stopped by the US shield in Europe and Asia.
    It was "a low-flying, difficult-to-spot cruise missile with a nuclear payload with a practically unlimited range and an unpredictable flight path, which can bypass lines of interception and is invincible in the face of all existing and future systems of both missile defence and air defence".
    Another weapon he discussed was a submarine launched, long-range missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43239331
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    This week the Russian Defense Ministry is expected to report finalizing its plan for materiel procurement until 2027, with the nuclear arsenal, precision weapons and Army hardware said to be prioritized.
    A decade-long plan for military procurement was supposed to be passed in 2016, but was delayed due to economic uncertainty. According to a source in the presidential administration cited by the Kommersant daily, the government decided not to wait any longer for stabilization that is nowhere to be seen.
    The Russian Defense Ministry will get $324 billion for procurement under the program, compared to just $51 billion given to the rest of the Russian law enforcement and intelligence services combined. The spending would be more balanced between arms of the Russian military service compared to 2011-2020 plan, which had prioritized the Navy over the Army.
    The report says the Russian military would focus on upgrading the national nuclear arsenal, researching future weapon systems like hypersonic missiles and bringing the Army hardware up to date. The latter will receive new air defense systems and modern armor like T-90 and T-14 main battle tanks or Kurganetsh infantry fighting vehicles. Arctic-compatible equipment will also be high on the shopping list.
    The nuclear arsenal will see an upgrade of air-launched cruise missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles and ground-launched ICBMs. The Defense Ministry is expected to approve the RS-26 Rubezh ballistic missile and the RS-28 Sarmat hypersonic-tipped missile for active service.
    https://www.rt.com/news/413570-russi...ement-details/
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    The military version of Britain’s Boaty McBoatface contest launched by Russia’s Defense Ministry Thursday opens a portal where seemingly anyone with an email address can submit names for three advanced new weapons: an unlimited-range, low-flying, nuclear-powered cruise missile; a long-distance nuclear torpedo-drone; and a high-powered laser gun.

    Proposals immediately began pouring in to the Russian defense ministry’s Twitter and Facebook feeds. The Russian embassy in the United States even seemingly invited Americans to participate in what it called Putin’s “name-that-weapon” contest.

    One of the first suggestions: “Volodya,” a Russian diminutive of Vladimir. That sycophantic offering came from the head of Russia’s state-controlled RT network, Margarita Simonyan.

    One Russian user wrote the long-range nuclear torpedo-drone should be called “The Kraken.”
    Another referenced a Soviet pop song to propose the missile should be dubbed “Goodbye America.”
    The laser could be called “Cyclops,” or “The Eye,” wrote one user, and the missile should be “The Anglo-Saxons’ Nightmare,” suggested another.
    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/...uclear-weapons

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