Effective Training....

[goesh]

- suspend some of the 'rights' of boots during basic, obey first, then think, its only what ... 9 weeks or so? I heard some kind of rumor a few years back about boots who could notify a DI if they were getting too stressed, surely to God that was a myth - avoid the high techery mindset in basic

[Ken White]

I've never agreed with that idea -- even though (or perhaps because) the USMC and Parris Island in 1949 had a lot that going on...

I agree with the stress early on but that can best be provided by challenging them to do much more than they believe they can and by forcing them to THINK -- it'll be a novel experience for some. Maybe most...

I've been through Boot Camp and three other courses where idle harassment and just doing what one was told were the norm. The intent was to provide stress, similar to combat -- it does not, it's just harassment to scare people into not asking questions because they take time to answer, makes life easier for the Instructor or Cadre. I've been through others that allowed, even encouraged, thinking and the Cadre mentored rather than 'smoked' people. No doubt in my mind in which type all us students learned more...

What if instead of making people afraid to ask questions, we encouraged them to ask -- and told them in peacetime and in training WHY we wanted them to do something. Then they'd learn (a) there was a good reason to do it; (b) to think it through themselves; and (c) to do what was told without explanrtions when there was no time for explanations...

That works and I never had a problem with it, peacetime or combat. For many years, I told a lot of young (and a few old) NCOs "I've never seen a pushup get a weapon clean or teach a kid what to do in a firefight."

Still haven't.

[slapout9]

I put this under Effective Training because it is.........effective.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7t1a_oCkE&NR=1

[Brian Hanley]

http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=71...411EE51BBE2FEC

Yes, it would be different/harder carrying gear. But I'm sure if an XInfantry-game's contest rules required carrying/using certain gear we would see some amazing sights. I think we would learn a few things about where the limits really are.

Sort of like snowboarders are now doing 20 foot jumps for recreation because of Shaun White.

These kids are pretty good. Basic training can only do so much. High level skills are developed in society, and mind-set about what is possible is largely set there too.