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    Default Civilian Symbiosis

    Such real time, open-heart reporting cannot help but foster more awareness and serious thought in citizens who have tacitly and willingly sent their defenders into a hostile environment(s). The devastation of grief is a common bond and this Captain has strongly bonded , unknowingly, with some of the folks back home. The usual political and moral motivations of war have been cast aside and the pain of departed friends is shared and borne. It seems inevitable, more civilian interfacing with the Military brings more of the deeply personal to the Public's attention. It is essentially positive IMO though a sad and bitter subject. It seems fitting and honorable that he chose to be anonymous with his disclosure, not wanting any undue attention brought upon himself as a professional Soldier and I hope it was not out of fear of repercussion that he so spoke.

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    You can guarantee fear of retribution played a part.
    Speaking out of turn is the greatest possible thought-crime in our Soviet-ised system.
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    The conversation between Jacqui Janes and Pm Gordon Brown is gaining a little media traction the past few days here David. Not much, but enough to have been replayed several times at least yesterday.

    One of the things that struck me were her assertions regarding the lack of equipment, such as support helicopters. Now this Welsh Guard officer's accounts...

    How is this playing out in the news over your way?

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    Default It ain't pretty any way you look at it...

    ...to the uninitiated, our Prime Minister is unlucky, hapless and a poor communicator who despite some errors, has an opportunistic opposition and some slightly dubious senior military advisors who have recently been tainted with party-political affililiations.

    To the initiated, this man is singlehandledly responsible for the politicisation of Defence and its serial under-resourcing since 1997. As Chancellor (in charge of all tax-raising and national budgetary decisions), he had near total ownership not only of how much each department received, but also audit over how it was spent. Therefore our output and policy based Strategic Defence Review never stood a chance of being realised as a resourced plan. Blair could make no decision without Brown's approval, as he had no mastery of detail, and wouldn't challenge his symbiotic ally. Brown was therefore part of the flawed decisionmaking that saw us strategically distracted by Iraq, therefore allowing Afghanistan to fester. At no point did the man understand, support or sympathise with the Armed Forces in anything they did as an entity, other than to individual empathise with young working class men and women whom he instinctively felt were being exploited by people from privileged backgrounds who leap-frogged them in life.

    You have to understand, this man is a lifelong committed socialist who is dedicated to State control and intervention of all aspects of life. He does not understand international dynamics. He refuses to acknowledge opposing points of view. Any dissent is to be isolated, discredited and then destroyed in detail. He has achieved his political success by the most ruthless form of socialist machine politics. You have to study it to believe it, the way the UK New Labour movement is straight out of George Orwell's 1984 - starting with control of language and the ownership of the single 'narrative'.

    Other than that, he's a hell of a fella. We're very lucky to enjoy such enlightened leadership.

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    Coldstreamer:
    Other than that, he's a hell of a fella. We're very lucky to enjoy such enlightened leadership.
    Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

    Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
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    Excellent.

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    Default The UK reaction lately

    Jon,

    You asked:
    The conversation between Jacqui Janes and Pm Gordon Brown is gaining a little media traction the past few days here David..How is this playing out in the news over your way?.
    I have commented on a different thread 'UK's Failing Strategy'
    :http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...?t=7644&page=2

    The scenes from Wotton Bassett of the funeral cortege(s) have a greater impact than Jacqui Janes -v- PM Gordon Brown IMHO on UK public opinion. Now others acknowledge a failure to explain to the oublic why; let alone to those serving like the late Mark Evison (on the other thread). I doubt many look too far, notably the losses time after time over the same territory and deaths to enable the last presidential election.

    Even those who have been sympathetic, like the veteran Sunday Times reporter Christina Lamb, to our intervention now write "enough is enough" and in her last sentence I suspect sums up many othyer's opinion:
    I don’t think we should just withdraw and let the Taleban take over. But I do believe we shouldn’t compound the mistakes already made by sending yet more young men to die.
    From: http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/54...-targets.thtml
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