Quitting Afghanistan?

[AmericanPride]

What do you think is the reason behind the recent surge (yes, I said surge...) in media reporting about Congressmen, academics, and the general public favoring the termination of the Afghan war? Is it because the Iraq War is no longer head-line news? Has there been, and continues to be, a strong public opposition to the Afghan War? Is it a reaction to Obama's new approach and the release of Gen. McChrystal's report? Something else?

[Fuchs]

The Brits had their 200th KIA and may have infected the U.S. with negative reporting - there's no language barrier, after all.

[Abu Suleyman]

I don't know that there has been anymore opposition recently than usual, but some of the people who have been supportive in the past have switched their positions. It seems to have a "Cronkite effect", because for some reason the media like to report on exceptions rather than report on the common things. So when Cronkite added his gravitas to the idea that Vietnam was a lost cause, the media jumped on it. Likewise, in modern times, the media loved the idea that when Rep. Murtha turned against Iraq it signalled that "even former supporters now view the war as lost."

Now, the issue seems to be that most Democrats never supported it very much, and Republicans aren't in control any more. That changes the dynamics for Republicans because they may not trust the opposite party to do things right, and they are no longer personally responsible if it fails. The big news is that George Will, normally a hawk, called for withdrawal today. I don't know whether Will is still an opinion setter amongst conservatives, but it certainly is an interesting take on the story. Unfortunately, the hook, and not the value of the information is what drives the news cycle today.

[davidbfpo]

Each year the Uk media go into July-August as the "silly season", when press priorities suddenly change and stories that never get attention usually get some. Undoubtedly the parliamentary holiday, ten weeks this year, contributes; so does the holiday for editorial teams.

Is this phenomena seen in the USA?

Here the regular, sometimes daily reporting of deaths in Afghanistan has had an impact; whatever the historical comparison made to worse days. What is far from clear is whether the UK government and other political parties will recognise public opinion has changed - from opposition to voting intentions.

I am not convinced UK losses have much impact in the USA, let alone on American public opinion.

I leave aside the impact in the UK of Afghan casualties on opinions within the 'establishment'.

davidbfpo

[Ken White]

Each year the Uk media go into July-August as the "silly season", when press priorities suddenly change and stories that never get attention usually get some. Undoubtedly the parliamentary holiday, ten weeks this year, contributes; so does the holiday for editorial teams.

Is this phenomena seen in the USA?

Really. Year round. Beyond silly...

I am not convinced UK losses have much impact in the USA, let alone on American public opinion.

Probably not much in totality but they certainly resonate with many. I've had several people comment or ask questions on not only the casualties but the general effort in Helmand over the last couple of months.

[slapout9]

IMO the economy is starting to become the main US priority as opposed to building somebody else's Nation. Then there is Mexico right next door which is the most serious security threat we face and seem to be ignoring. We need and will need more money to rebuild our own Nation and defense spending is a target of opportunity.

[Pol-Mil FSO]

The elites by and large seem to share the American public's belief that there is a magic bullet or at least an obvious answer for any problem. They just do not seem to be able to come to grips with the idea that some problems can only be addressed by looking for the least damaging of a set of disagreeable options, or that there may not even be a viable solution (e.g. peace in the Middle East).

I also see a disturbing inability to "connect the dots." Outside of a small minority, does anyone understand that the United States became and remains the most powerful nation in the world through past and present pursuit of deliberate policies and exercise of power and influence? Have any of the withdrawal advocates examined the possible second and third order consequences of a U.S. withdrawal or even retrenchment in Afghanistan? I have not seen any efforts to lay out a strategically literate and intellectually credible cost and benefit analysis for withdrawal from Afghanistan.